Hi Steven
>>>> 6. Static awareness. Each higher level evolved from the lower
>>>> level but has become a discrete level. From the point of view
>>>> of any level it is only possible to evaluate phenomena at that
>>>> level.
>>> This makes no sense.
>> Can you elaborate on that? What doesn't make sense and why?
>
> Steve: I was referring to "from the point of view of any level." I
> agree with higher levels evolving from lower levels.
I disagree. A *thing* can contain patterns from different levels, say
levels 1 and 2. But when that thing is a part of a level 2 event, the
level 2 patterns are involved in the event, and when the thing is
involved in a level 1 event, the level 1 patterns are involved.
An example of the former is an animal eating, and an example of the
latter is the same animal falling.
>>>> 7. Static dominance. Because each lower level is unable to
>>>> evaluate the other levels, it considers itself to be the most
>>>> moral and strives to dominate the others.
>>> makes no sense.
>> Same as above.
>
> Steve: It's the same issue. Levels don't themselves evaluate
> anything, they are categories for types of patterns of value. I
> think all the personification of levels that goes on here is muddling
> the MOQ.
We're in disagreement again, on both accounts.
If the patterns of the different levels are not involved in the
"valuing", then what is doing it? And if you categorically deny all
static patterns any notion of selfness, how can the individual you
mention below which are composed of those four static levels "respond to
DQ" as you put it.
Somehow, magically, this self has suddenly appeared in your reasoning.
It almost sounds as if DQ is identical with the S of SOM, or?
>>>> 12. Self. The self is undivided Quality, encompassing both
>>>> Dynamic and static patterns. As with Quality, the self is both
>>>> one and many.
>>> I don't think that this is what RMP means by the self.
>> I can agree that the last sentence is a bit cryptic, but regardless
>> of what RMP may or may not mean, what do *you* disagree with.
>
> Steve: I think that the MOQ says that an individual is composed of
> all four levels with the ability to respond to DQ. The patterns have
> Lila rather than Lila possessing patterns. Number 12 seems to make
> the self primary reality by equating it with Quality.
I agree that an individual is composed of all four levels, and that it
has the ability to respond to DQ. But I'd also say that a thing of any
level has the ability to respond to DQ. But then again, we may have very
different notions of what DQ is.
Regards,
Magnus
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