Utter garbage Platt. (Oops, did I say that out loud ?) Ian
On 5/14/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quoting Krimel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > [Platt] > > > Pirsig explains what this means: "Because of his different metaphysical > > > orientation Phaedrus saw instantly that those seemingly trivial, > > > unimportant, "spur of the moment" decisions that Mayr was talking about, > > > the decisions that directed the progress of evolution are, in fact. > > > Dynamic Quality itself. Dynamic Quality, the source of all things, the > > > pre-intellectual cutting edge of reality, always appears as "spur of the > > > moment" Where else could it. appear?" (Lila, 11) > > > > > > [Krimel] > > > Thanks for pointing this out it is exactly what I have been saying; DQ > > > _is_ the "spur of the moment" chance event. And the summation of those > > > chance events is the source of all thing, etc. > > > > [Platt] > > Where do you see "chance event" in the passage? > > > > [Krimel] > > Where do you find anything else in "... those seemingly trivial, > > unimportant, 'spur of the moment' decisions..." these are the decisions that > > Mayr was talking about. Earlier Pirsig summarized Mayr by saying: > > > > "Evolution is recklessly opportunistic: it favors any variation that > > provides a competitive advantage over other members of an organism's own > > population or over individuals of different species. For billions of years > > this process has automatically fueled what we call evolutionary progress. No > > program controlled or directed this progression. It was the result of spur > > of the moment decisions of natural selection. > > > > Mayr certainly seemed to consider the matter settled and this attitude, no > > doubt, reflected a consensus among everyone except anti-evolutionists." > > > > He then identifies this with DQ. Pirsig obviously wants a sugar coated > > version of this but it doesn't fly and seriously mars the whole of Chapter > > 11. > > I consider Chapter 11 one of the most important in the literature of > evolution. > It answers the question Dawinian evolutionists can't -- Why survive? It also > provides a explanation for the increase in versatility and freedom so evident > in evolution, from amoeba to man. It fills in the knowledge gap left by > appeals > to "chance" which in effect means, "I don't know." In short, it picks up where > science quits. > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
