Ian:
> (1) I don't "go after" Platt, I follow along
> sincerely when subjects
> arise on the off chance he may be being sincere, and
> we might both
> learn something from dialogue - then I indicate when
> I've given up. I
> can be (and have been) much harder on Platt if and
> when I choose.

SA:  Well, I don't "go after" Bo in the context your
using.  As you say above, I also follow along and Bo
makes statements after statements, posts after posts
without my commenting until he makes these arrogant
statements.  This last effort of mine (which I'm the
only one making the effort to discuss with Bo, Bo has
never tried to go through one post with me without
making a snide remark), so, as I was saying I was
trying one last time to understand Bo and he wouldn't
explain his position - at all - except for "it's
better" and "SA's dense".  I find he needs put in
check for if I don't or nobody else does he grows in
posts that are full of he's the only moq expert,
etc... and he just confuses the the discussion, throws
much off-topic with his lectures on how he's the best
and only moq expert.



Ian: 
> (2) The difference is, yes you are having a falling
> out with Bo (and
> yes a bit of emotional name-calling arises, it
> happens in
> disagreements and misunderstandings, particularly
> where people are
> passionately interested in their subject 

SA:  First off, I've never named called Bo - never. 
I've pointed out he's a tyrannt and have put him in
with examples of Hitler, but when Bo comes out and
says "Bo's the only true metaphysician, and he's the
only true moq expert and the SOL is the only moq way",
well, that takes away everybody's freedom - it becomes
Bo's reality only.  He states he only knows the moq
and thus, he is taking over the moq and taking
possession of the moq for himself as the sole
understander.  He's already thrown Pirsig out the
door.  I only continually quote Bo, over and over
again, I quote him.  If what I've quoted from Bo is
not empirialistic then I don't know what is.  If
anybody can name one time I've called named-called Bo,
then let me know, quote me.  I've always been
open-minded and admitted when I've incorrectly
positioned myself.  We know this.  


Ian:
> - it's a good sign of
> caring), and I still believe you are all being
> sincere in wanting to
> understand the differences. Platt is irredeemable by
> choice. Yours is
> a recent and local difficulty.

SA:  This isn't recent.  I've been doing this every
since Bo came back onto the forum in the past year.  I
listened to him.  Read his posts.  Asked him
questions, got snide remarks, but I let it go.  Yet,
he goes on and people praise him, and he hasn't even
said anything coherent except he's the only true moq
metaphysician.  You say Platt is irredeemable - Bo's
been doing this from what I hear for about 20 years
now - that sounds about as irredeemable as it gets.


SA



      
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