> Utter garbage Platt. > (Oops, did I say that out loud ?) > Ian Your opinion of Pirsig's view of evolution is most enlightening. Anything else in the MOQ you consider "garbage?"
Platt > On 5/14/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Quoting Krimel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > [Platt] > > > > Pirsig explains what this means: "Because of his different > > > > metaphysical orientation Phaedrus saw instantly that those seemingly > > > > trivial, unimportant, "spur of the moment" decisions that Mayr was > > > > talking about, the decisions that directed the progress of evolution > > > > are, in fact. Dynamic Quality itself. Dynamic Quality, the source of > > > > all things, the pre-intellectual cutting edge of reality, always > > > > appears as "spur of the moment" Where else could it. appear?" (Lila, > > > > 11) > > > > > > > > [Krimel] > > > > Thanks for pointing this out it is exactly what I have been saying; DQ > > > > _is_ the "spur of the moment" chance event. And the summation of those > > > > chance events is the source of all thing, etc. > > > > > > [Platt] > > > Where do you see "chance event" in the passage? > > > > > > [Krimel] > > > Where do you find anything else in "... those seemingly trivial, > > > unimportant, 'spur of the moment' decisions..." these are the decisions > > > that Mayr was talking about. Earlier Pirsig summarized Mayr by saying: > > > > > > "Evolution is recklessly opportunistic: it favors any variation that > > > provides a competitive advantage over other members of an organism's own > > > population or over individuals of different species. For billions of > > > years this process has automatically fueled what we call evolutionary > > > progress. No program controlled or directed this progression. It was the > > > result of spur of the moment decisions of natural selection. > > > > > > Mayr certainly seemed to consider the matter settled and this attitude, > > > no doubt, reflected a consensus among everyone except > > > anti-evolutionists." > > > > > > He then identifies this with DQ. Pirsig obviously wants a sugar coated > > > version of this but it doesn't fly and seriously mars the whole of > > > Chapter 11. > > > > I consider Chapter 11 one of the most important in the literature of > > evolution. It answers the question Dawinian evolutionists can't -- Why > > survive? It also provides a explanation for the increase in versatility > > and freedom so evident in evolution, from amoeba to man. It fills in the > > knowledge gap left by appeals to "chance" which in effect means, "I don't > > know." In short, it picks up where science quits. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
