[Krimel]
Other symbolic systems from the written word to music to art, carry
Varying degrees of ambiguity but more emotional depth. That depth 
offers clarity at the expense of precision. But this is why I argue 
that not all thought is linguistic or symbolic.

Ron:
I'm not saying all of our language is objective or logical, language
does have it's Abstract meaning also. This is what I mean about how we
perceive the S/O distinction. It is a matter of our grammar. 

[Krimel]
I do not think that perception has much to do with grammar. Perception is
the integration of sensation and memory. Perception is distilled into
grammar. It is communicated through grammar. But experience and even thought
are not wholly grammatical in my view.

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