On Tuesday 03 June Marsha writes to Joe Greetings Joe, [Marsha] I was wondering if either you or Matt would consider this point-of-view worth considering? Or how did you (Joe), see Matt and me on the same page? Marsha Hi Marsha, Matt and all, [Joe] I first read any post from an empty view. I read your post about your point of view: ³I have never been terribly comfortable with a hierarchical structure because it forbids the possibility of overlapping categories.² Then I read Matt¹s post to Ron: ³But what is the utility in placing truth in the moment of presentness if it might be false when it becomes the past in the next moment?" [Joe] The common page I felt was the presentness of experience. In Marsha¹s case I felt the awareness of hallelujah let us proceed! In Matt¹s case a cautious awareness that the common page must always be reexamined! I felt that evolution was a common answer to both points of view. The wonder of now! Joe
On 6/3/08 7:15 AM, "Marsha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greetings Joe, > > I was wondering if either you or Matt would consider this point-of-view > worth considering? Or how did you (Joe), see Matt and me on the same page? > > Marsha > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marsha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 7:37 AM > Subject: Re: [MD] Truth and the Linguistic Turn > > > Greetings Joe, > > If I look to the West, truth looks one way, and if I look to the East the > truth looks another way. I never want to be the one who assumes truth to > be: This is what I think, this what I feel, so this is the way it is... > I would have never thought so, but I am beginning to think that the closer I > look, the further I get from any kind of "truth". The generality is closer > to the truth, the specific instance is just made up story, myth, or maybe a > beautiful song, or poem. But I don't know... > > Marsha > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joseph Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 4:31 PM > Subject: Re: [MD] Truth and the Linguistic Turn > > > > > > > > Hi Matt, Marsha, and all, > > [Matt] > "And it is agreed by most philosophers (and all laypeople) that knowledge > and process of finding truth begins with our experience of the world. > > [Joe] > I like Marsha¹s point of view: there are different ways of viewing the > world! Nicoll talks about a distinction between ³impressions² and > ³associations². The distinction he is drawing is echoed in Persig¹s > statement: ³Culture hands us a set of glassesS.² When I was young my first > impressions became organized into associations of behavior in society! > Later in life impressions fall on these associations, instead of consciousy > and my outlook becomes mechanical from a very young age. > > [Matt] > But what is the utility in placing truth in the moment of presentness if it > might be false when it becomes the past in the next moment?" > > [Joe] > If I don¹t allow my consciousness of the ³present², but only my associations > of the past, I will have no hint that my behavior depends on mechanical > associations learned at my mom¹s knee. I am acting like a child, with no > hint that I am acting mechanically, not consciously from developed > faculties. It has always worked before. If I make no mistakes in going > beyond my youthful associations, I live my life in mechanical sleep. I > live, but am I alive? > > [Joe] > IMO Matt and Marsha arrive at the same page, life, from different > perspectives: variety is a difficulty of life, or variety is the spice of > life. How many varieties does life come in? Is the inorganic a ³present > variety² of life? Why isn¹t evolution discovered in a ³process of finding > truth in our experience of the world?² > > Joe > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
