----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Kundert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] Truth and the Linguistic Turn



Hi Marsha, Joe,

Joe said:
IMO Matt and Marsha arrive at the same page, life, from different perspectives: variety is a difficulty of life, or variety is the spice of life. How many varieties does life come in? Is the inorganic a ³present variety² of life? Why isn¹t evolution discovered in a ³process of finding truth in our experience of the world?²

Marsha said:
If I look to the West, truth looks one way, and if I look to the East the truth looks another way. I never want to be the one who assumes truth to be: This is what I think, this what I feel, so this is the way it is... I would have never thought so, but I am beginning to think that the closer I look, the further I get from any kind of "truth". The generality is closer to the truth, the specific instance is just made up story, myth, or maybe a beautiful song, or poem. But I don't know...

Matt:
In all honesty, I've never been very good at understanding Joe, but I like the way he puts Marsha and I on the same page, "life." There is a sense that I've been coming to appreciate more and more in my writing that "life" is the widest, most important concept/thing. I can see why he pits us with the point of views he does, but when I'm not doing philosophy (in the particular way I do it), I quite like the variety of life myself. I'd like to think that whatever philosophical viewpoint I have, it encompasses both the difficulty and spicy versions.

As it is with the point of view you enunciated, Marsha, I think you've bled together quite well parts of wisdom that I like, parts that can be found from both the East and West. In the West, it is a philosophical tradition that begins with Socrates, continues with the Pyhrronian tradition, into Montainge, Emerson and Nietzsche and into the Existentialists. I think it is fundamentally a humanist and ironist tradition, a string of intellectuals who look askance at the common sense of their time, people who feel both the need to speak and take back everything spoken, often producing a very ambivalent tone in their writings.

Matt


Greetings Matt, Joe,

Ambivalence? What can you say definitively about a universe that is uncaused, like a net of jewels in which each is only the reflection of all the others in a fantastic interrelated harmony without end? Rooting out ones own erroneous thought seems the best course of action. I think that my point-of-view fits well with the MOQ, but sometimes it's hard tell. If it doesn't, I wish I would be more challenged. Sometimes it is very clear, other times confusion reigns. I started being so against hard logic, and here I am now chasing Nagarjuna's tetralemma form of logic. Life is such a circle game. Ha!

I find both you and Joe difficult to translate. But more and more I see your (both) words as your art, and that is perfectly wonderful. My curiosity and understanding will hopefully grow. I hope so. The MOQ seems perfect to me, because there is so much room to grow. It is dynamic from its own side. Spicy? Harmonic? Dance through and through...

Marsha




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