[Marsha] I've been wondering about the question behind this thread. Is there some proof, hope, or 'chance' that life is predictable? In a laboratory or in daily living?
Krimel, what is it that DMB is not getting? You seem to be proposing a theory, but I'm not sure that you've stated it clearly. [Krimel] In this particular instance dmb was falling victim to the illusion that because we remember, have records and live with the consequences of a particular flow of events that that particular flow is fixed and certain. He appears at least to be supporting the kind of view that Ham espouses when he claims that the universe from some godlike perceptive is a fait accompli. I am saying that first of all time is not reversible but if it were it would not rewind like a movie. To get to the past you would have to pass through the same sort of indeterminacies that we pass through moving forward in time and that as a result we could not return to any point in time that we have been in previously. Not only that I am saying that our knowledge of the past is insufficient to make certain judgments about why things happened the way they did. History is the mixture of educated guesses. The farther back in time we try to look the harder it is to make accurate guesses as to what shaped events of the past. I mentioned the Kennedy assassination but recently I asserted that one of the chief motivations of Plato and other early Greek thinkers was to incorporate the stunning achievements of the Greek mathematicians into the lives of ordinary Athenians. Matt then advanced the notion that Plato was driven by bitterness and personal grief over the treatment of his mentor at the hands of Athenian authorities. Who can say which is which? Does either theory account for the facts or just express our respective personal prejudice? Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
