[Krimel]
Linguistics is not my field but I believe there is a whole school of
linguistics that would say the grammar precedes language. It is the
underlying inherited structure of grammar that in fact produces
language.

Ron:
If you mean that our structure of perception and therefore our language
to describe it has it's origins in the very fabric of how life responds
to stimuli, I would have to ask you then about how
You feel about Subject/Object metaphysics in this context.

[Krimel:]
Just as our perception of the world is shaped by the perceptual
equipment we
bring to the task, our language is in part determined by the grammatical
structures we inherit.

Ron:
I tend to think it emerges out of social complexity and the
Need of language to be more precise in meaning. 

[Krimel:]
I am not sure what leads you to think that logic shapes perception
rather
than that perception shapes logic.

Ron:
I tend to favor
A complex systems model in the development of intellect and societies.
I think your theory plays a role but I think its way more complex
Than cause and effect. If you wanted to look at it in those terms, then
Intellect pervades the universe. But if you want to be accurate
In assessing the origins of thought as it pragmatically applies
To our culture then we have to look at the origins of our
Logic and grammar in relation to it. So to address the question:
Why does our culture think the way it does today? I feel the most
obvious
Place to explore is the origin of our grammar and logic.
To try to account for the origin and the cause effect relationship
Of logic and perception, takes us of into conjecture and meaninglessness
Not to mention leaving the initial question unaddressed. 
Why does our culture think the way it does? I take your
Comments to mean that you feel that we think the way we do
In terms of subjects and objects, as emergent from the universe.

I smell Plato.


Wait, maybe it's my cast....yep it's my cast. Eeew








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