dmb says:

I suppose there is no fast or easy solution. But it sure seems like the
social-intellectual distinction and the diagnosis it affords really
could help to sort things out. I'm talking about the solution to the
culture wars, but it could sort out the issues in this conversation
about it too. I mean, which of the standard claims of christian faith,
for example, would survive the demands of radical empiricism? In the
contest between creationism and any normal science textbook which
represents intellectual values and empirical standards? There will
always be hard cases to ponder but most of these so-called debates
aren't even debatable. 

Ron:
Hello Dmb,
I have really enjoyed your last several posts. I don't think much of
Christian faith would stand up to radical empiricism for the very reason
That Christian faith, Catholicism in particular tend to take an excluded
Middle approach to the subject.
Recently I had a discussion with someone of the catholic faith as to why
He felt intellectuals do not subscribe. He cited that intellectuals do
Not want to be told they are wrong, that they refute it on the basis
that
Christian morals cramp their lifestyle and they justify their
intellectual
Beliefs on that. I said not so in my case. I do not subscribe because 
I feel the logic it employs is faulty. The absolute nature of the
beliefs.
The concept that it holds that there is one and only one truth, their
truth.
He said that truth is the word of God. I said no, that truth is the word
of men and the conversation digressed from there. Your right on the
money
With the assessment that the church is the very edifice of SOM.
We have a long row to hoe in the face of the logic of absolute
universals.







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