Ron: The conflict in the meaningfulness between physical cosmology And metaphysical cosmology lies in it's usefulness to the individual. Some people need to be assured of their origin meaning and place While others are comfortable with not knowing this in any universal Sense, rather placing this question within the free agents will To form these concepts from their own experience. I find this interesting coming from the two most avid champions Of individualism and free agency, that they would tout universals In it's stead, in any form. Universal understanding of origin, Place and meaning of the universe implies a collective appreciation For your metaphysical ideals. If essentialism succeeds in supplying Meaning and purpose for humanity how does the individual free agent Figure into it? Seems to me that the independent assessment of meaning and source is taken from the individual in Essentialism whereas physical Cosmology at least leaves the door open to free will of concepts.
science offers theories based on observed phenomena where you offer absolute source from intuitive reason. Science leaves the door open for competing theories, Essentialisms source is absolute and non negotiable. [Platt]: > A wonderful description of the "Oops Theory" of being. > An uncaused first cause is something supernatural for sure. > But don't tell that to the priests of science. Ham: But, as you can clearly see, DMB and Krimel are not about to be seduced by the "supernaturalism" of metaphysics. For them, the "real world" of experience is inviolable, and all knowledge must be empirical -- based on what Science says. I find it ironic that such closed minds remain on this forum to interpret Pirsig's thesis for us. If they refuse to accept anything but a textbook explanation of reality, how can they possibly pass judgment on a metaphysics of Quality? Indeed, how can they appreciate Value even as they experience it? There's a significant difference between imaginative fantasy and intuitive reasoning, and wisdom is not enhanced by limiting one's intellectual perspective. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
