Ham --
Ron prev: > To be perfectly honest Ham, my purpose is to be the best parent > and husband I can be, I achieve that by being the best person I > can be. It's all about relationships. If I lost my wife and children, > I don't know how secure I'd be in purpose. I'd have to re-evaluate > once more using the tools I have accrued. So to conclude, > my world view is ever evolving and dynamic. It changes as I > speak. I stay light flexible aware and ready. Because of the things > I have gone through in my life, I am quite comfortable with not > knowing how or why. The sheer fact that I am is enough for me. Ham: I take it, then. that you are a contented American father with a zest for life and a passing interest in philosophy. That's admirable, and I'm happy for you. I don't know what life has presented you with, of course, but when people say they are comfortable "not knowing how or why", I have to wonder if they are suppressing their desire to know, lest the truth turn out to be upsetting. Ron: Philosophy has become my religion, I am comfortable with the knowledge that there is no truth in the singular sense only contextual truths. Ham: Your nonchalance is baffling, and I suspect you're holding something back. I find it hard to believe that an active contributor to this forum could be impassive to the views discussed here, as if it didn't concern them. Unlike sports, theater, or international affairs, reality is something we're all immanently involved with. Whatever credence we give to the conclusions expressed here, however unconcerned we may be about the nature of reality, it is ultimately a life and death matter for each of us. Ron; It's all opinion Ham, once you realize that, it ceases to be a life or death situation. Having actually faced life and death situations in which I have stared into the abyss, one thing did strike me, we don't, can't and never will understand it. Every conception you ever held about anything is reduced to squat in the actual face of eternity. It left me with the understanding that all "truth" is, is a security blanket against the immensity of the universe. I stay humble in this regard, I prefer not to pretend to know anything about it. I will embrace it with open arms whatever the "truth" of it may be. Perhaps why I come off nonchalant is because I have learned some hard life lessons early. whenever you think you have a grip on what it's all about, Life has a way of showing you that you don't. I deal with PTSD Ham, I wish I was an autonomous free agent...but the fact of the matter is the trauma frequently pulls the strings in my life which I struggle to reprogram. If I did believe I was an autonomous free agent I would probably be an abusive substance addict. I do have a certain amount of control but that control lies in the awareness that instinctive biological triggers exist and do manifest themselves in my actions. Ham: Are you sure you have no ontological theory to put on the table? Ron: Probably the reason why I sound like I reinvent Pirsig to this Question is because I am. I have taken his ontology and made it my own with some fashioning to fit my experience and outlook. but I am always open to revision. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
