I get it DMB, SA quite rightly corrected me. Let's be clear, as a "thought experiment" then it's dangerous but interesting ground - good stuff, if we are careful with each other about those dangers. As a proposed real life project - physical / surgical sensory deprivation of infants - moral madness would be a good word for it DMB, I'd agree - whoever suggested it.
But let's be clear it is considered "normal" in most cultures to "manage" what our offspring experience. (I interjected because of the question aimed at me re the "brain in a vat" references, after having been offline for several days. The brain-in-a-vat exercise starts with a disembodied brain - it doesn't start by creating one from a whole viable human - a different set of moral questions.) Take it away, Squonk. I'm listening now, honest ;-) Ian On 6/29/08, david buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ian and all: > > SA said to Ian: > Squonk introduced babies when he said they are the same as Zen masters. > ..careful now, ..steady, > > dmb says: > Leaving aside the dark humor about flaying or cutting off the noses of > babies, it really does seem that Squonk's experiment would deprive infants > of sensory experience. After the mutilation jokes, in the sentences that > followed the phrase "But seriously", there was a detailed explanation of my > objections. Mostly, I appealed to developmental psychology and had moral > objections. Squonk continued to defend the idea and replied, saying, "re. > Crimes and ethical nightmares. This is your view. Thank you for stating it." > > I can see why you'd assume it was an unfair, twisted version or some kind > of rhetorical trick, but if you follow the thread you'll see that it is the > actual case he's making, to keep the babies pure and free of static > patterns. I think "madness" is a reasonable word for that stance. Don't you > think? Is there anyone who thinks otherwise? > > _________________________________________________________________ > Need to know now? Get instant answers with Windows Live Messenger. > > http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_062008 > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
