Hi Squonk,
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Subject: Re: [MD] moq thought experiement 1.
Greetings Squonk,?
?
Sorry to interrupt, but I am trying to understand your point-of-view.
Hi Marsha,
There's not need to be sorry for anything - this is a free group.
Well, when i say free.
Marsha:
Are you suggesting that a static pattern (any static pattern) is
permanent, or like a thing in itself?
s: I don't know.
It's no surprise you may not understand my point of view, because i don't
fully understand it either. In a sense, Pirsig doesn't understand his
point of view; we are all in the same boat.
If sq and DQ are absolutely necessary then they both exist don't they?
I suppose i'm exploring what static patterns are as things that absolutely
have to exist.
Well, there's that word: exist. Unassuming little bugger, isn't it? At
the moment I'm of the mind that no-thing inherently exists. Relationally
and ever-changingly exist? Yes. But definitely not as a thing onto itself.
What does that mean? To me it means that I exist as a flow of value events
and whatever I encounter exists of a flow of value events. Water into
water.
What do you mean by 'exist'?
Marsha:
Aren't static patterns still process within the field of DQ?
s: This sounds good to me.
I argued for this in Liverpool 2005, but it got?edited out of the dvd
apparently, so i can't ask you to consider it. I don't know if this is
true because i've not seen it, maybe you could confirm it for me please
Marsha?
That was then, this is now.
If static patterns are processes within the field of DQ, then it would
appear some processes are more dynamic than others,?and not simply those
separated by?the 4 levels of evolutionary development.?I don't have a
problem with this. I think it could lead to some cool things.
There is another interesting word: appears. There is that little Buddhist
story about a rope that is mistaken for a snake.
What do you mean by 'appears'?
TE1 suggests that the blank slate human brain is an exceptionaly dynamic
process. I understand TE1?may have?disturbed you Marsha, but it's been
most helpful for me in ways i did not anticipate, so it was well worth it
as far as i'm concerned, because of the points you. and others, have?made.
Your TE1 didn't disturb me in the least. If it had/has value for you, work
it out. I must confess that I've been in some pretty strange experiences
trying pursue whatever it is that is calling to me. Kind of like Devil's
Tower in the film "Close Encounters of the Third Kind". Or maybe I'm being
too dramatic.
My questions are just trying to see better from your point-of-view.
Marsha
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