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--- On Fri, 4/7/08, Marsha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Marsha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MD] moq thought experiement 1. > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Received: Friday, 4 July, 2008, 11:39 PM > "I quite agree with you. And the moral of that is: Be > what you would seem to > be, or if you'd like it put more simply: Never imagine > yourself not to be > otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you > were or might > have been was not otherwise than what you had been would > have appeared to > them to be otherwise." > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 4:53 AM > Subject: Re: [MD] moq thought experiement 1. > > > > > > Hi Gav, > > There's allot going on here, but i have > experienced this so i understand. > > Or think i do. > > But there is a problem: > > '...the voice that some subtle souls realise > isn't them!!!' > > This implies there IS an authentic you, and i agree > with this also. Or > > think i do. > > > > However, non of this changes the fact that babies are > fully present, and > > i've been told by those who feel they know, that > being fully present is > > what zennies aim for. This may mean that zennies > don't give a fuck about > > being an agent of evolution either, and in a sense i > think i understand > > that. If it is so. > > > > I am just wondering. Just letting thoughts wander. And > i can see that the > > baby in us all doesn't ever go away. There are > moments when i seem to > > disappear and i am the baby again. It seems that > everything that i think > > has happened could vanish. > > > > squonk > > > > > > babies are pure like animals; they are fully present, > free of the > > reification > > that passes for reality in the adult world. > > this simulacrum has a function however - everything > does. everything is as > > it is > > - as it should be. the function is the *isolation of > the individual*; > > solipsism > > is a term used pejoratively to dismiss the purpose of > self-conscious > > awareness: > > alienation is a waystation on the road to > authenticity. gotta go through > > hell to > > get to heaven; the hero's journey is fundamentally > *a solo thing*. > > so we get alienated, depressed, isolated, scared, > depressed, desperate, > > suicidal, angry, frustrated, alone....and we go > through this....we walk > > through > > the fire and how we walk through determines how long > the fire lasts. > > the separation allows us to disenage from the > collective entity that seeks > > our > > submission - the egregor. its voice is the voice in > our heads; the voice > > that > > some subtle souls realise isn't them!!! and they > are pronounced shizo > > rather > > than aware. ha!! > > when life craps on your face you don't give a fuck > about keeping up > > appearances > > anymore and you free yourself from the egregious > machinations of the > > machine > > head....now the journey turns the hairpin and we > rejoin the collectivity - > > but > > this time as an 'agent of evolution'; babies > are not agents of evolution. > > being an agent of evolution is fun....you get a > '00' number and license to > > confuse. > > love and daggers > > g > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. www.yahoo7.com.au/mail Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
