heya chickadees,
think that we are getting closer to some sorta breakthrough.

a quote from terrence mckenna started some neurons firing last night. - 
paraphrasing - if anyone honestly reports a close encounter with alien beings 
it sounds like the person is nuts or taking the piss. this, says terry, is part 
of the point of this phenomenon.

[btw, both terry and bill hicks maintain that they have had close encounters 
and both were on psychoactives when it happened - making their stories less 
convincing to the 'authorities']
so what is the meaning of the ufo phenomenon?

well according to jung and mckenna it is a modern myth, whose purpose it is to 
ERODE FAITH IN SCIENCE.

now this phrase - faith in science - is the one that got me buzzing. faith is a 
social value, but isn't science intellectual?

dawkins and his ilk are examples of this 'science as faith' breed. their 
belligerence precludes an open and fair-minded pursuit of knowledge for its own 
sake - they are ideologues. they are transparently tendentious - seeking 
evidence for their own steadfast conclusions, rather than being genuinely 
interested in reaching a new conception that is capable of integrating and 
satisfying seemingly opposed viewpoints.
and this, as margaret and marsha will be aware, is classic patriarchal bullying.

science is patriarchal. all the big guns have been men and it is this male, 
solar, rationalist perspective that needs to be exposed as a faith (social 
value).

as i have mentioned, the ufo phenomenon occurs in a manner that makes 
corroboration difficult and marginalises those that report such phenomena. it 
says, in effect, that these folk imagined what happened - putting precedence 
not with the EXPERIENCE of the individual but with an explaining away of these 
experiences...not very MOQ.

mckenna and jung think that the ufo phenomenon exists to throw dogmatic 
(social) science into doubt....the mystery remains unexplained...mckenna calls 
it the insertion of the goddess (gaia) into the collective psyche.
to be open to DQ is to be open to the mystery. the MOQ is incontrovertibly 
mystical in essence.

evolution requires an openness to DQ, by definition. if we are to evolve (and i 
believe, along with millions of others, that we have to evolve, that we are in 
the process of an unprecedented evolutionary punctuation) we need to let go of 
faith, of certainty.

an aside: as i mentioned in a previous post, eckhart tolle and oprah winfrey 
have teemed up and oprah is getting a fair bit of shit from fundamental 
christians (social value) because she is denying the 'one true way of jesus' 
idea. she is saying that faith/belief is faux spirituality (right on sis!); and 
that genuine spirituality is felt, experienced - direct personal connection. 
this is an opening up - and a moral stance according to the MOQ. the 
intellectual level (authentic individual) trumps the social level (passive 
belief) when there is conflict.

pirsig points out that the original insights of religious traditions end up 
getting strangled and obscured by the vines of static knowledge that grow up 
around them. the same can be said for science. just as whoever wins the war 
writes the histories, so whoever runs the institutions dictates what is 
accepted scientific belief. white men run the institutions and of course the 
particular characteristics of this group are reflected in how science operates 
and what is proclaimed 'real' or not.

whereto from here?
well another familiar point to us moqers is the psychedelic experience. 
pirsig's peyote experience, apart from its direct value to his awareness and 
ideas, is an example of something common to all indigenous cultures - their 
grounding mechanisms. the shamen, rituals and psychoactive plants and fungi of 
indigenous cultures are there to skweegy the third eye so to speak. they clean 
away the obfuscating debris of accumulated static patterns so that DQ shines 
through - giving direction, coherence, connection. in other words - ensuring 
the psychic health of the community.

we don't have this. the western culture is bereft of these anchoring and 
guiding mechanisms and the result is mass neurosis. the western culture is 
mentally ill, obviously. we are fucking the planet, which is ourselves. it 
don't get more stupid than that.

we need more female voices! the feminine principle must rise into awareness to 
balance our sick patriarchal society - heed the wisdom in marsha's posts, in 
margaret's, in the women around you. we men have to balance ourselves - we need 
to look to the women in our lives and, in particular, the one woman in all our 
lives - gaia. nature is the teacher, nature is the tao, nature is DQ. WE NEED 
TO STOP POLLUTING AND DESTROYING AND BEGIN TO LIVE IN CONSTRUCTIVE HARMONY WITH 
THE EARTH. forgive the capitalisation but really it is past time for all of us 
to take responsibility for the situation.

science is limited, as it stands. the MOQ can probably widen the effective 
aegis of science because it recognises value. this is a very important point - 
but value recognition is experiential, aesthetic, immediate. it is not about 
right and wrong; it is about beauty as truth.

i am not saying we should gladly accomodate all points of view. the drivel that 
comes from some on this list should be honestly exposed as drivel (although 
there comes a time to just ignore posters who refuse to evolve). DMB is a 
champion at this. but even dmb is human and fallible and capable of hubris 
(love ya mate).

in closing a simple point: if we are to differentiate between intellectual and 
social we need to pose the existential question: what does this pattern  mean 
to me? how does it resonate with me - how do i feel about this pattern? we are 
the litmus test. am i upholding this pattern through habit or reaction 
(social), or does this pattern help me become fully human - free, aware, 
enlightened. 

for this is the purpose of intellect - enlightenment. we now have no choice 
other than to become a planet of enlightened beings....and fast.






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