-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Maurer Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 2:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MD] Falling out of Time/Space
Hi Krimel IMO Evolution is an order in existence. Energy, Time, Space are an order of manifestation S/O. IMO a further evolution of S only beyond the Intellectual level, enlightenment, could very well be out of time or space. Joe On 8/18/08 8:24 AM, "Krimel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wheeler's many worlds idea sort of goes with that but it is more like > timestreams separate from each other at each quantum choice point. I'm not > sure that each quantum particle is coherent enough across time to have it's > own history, though. Plus from instant to instant aren't your biological > patterns composed of different quantum particles? > > After all what ever "identity" or "self" we have is in the pattern of > particles and fields, not the particles or fields themselves. Well, it least > unless you take Sheldrake seriously. > Krimel > > -----Original Message----- > From: Magnus Berg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 1:59 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [MD] Falling out of Time/Space > > Hi guys > > I actually touched this subject in an essay I'm writing, but I don't think > *you* > as a whole person would be able to experience falling out of time/space. > > What I speculate is that each quantum "particle" has its own > timeline/history. > The only thing that makes us able to exist in one time is that all those > quantum > particles now use the same timeline and space. If this wasn't the case, each > > particle that you depend on would go back to its own spaceless timeline, so > you > would in a way explode, or rather just vanish. > > Magnus > > > > gav wrote: >> okay...i see. >> well i guess technically speaking everything that has happened or will > ever happen happens 'now'. that is the now contains all temporal events. >> so...in theory it may be possible to travel back/forward in time, in some > manner of speaking. >> i don't think you can get separated from time - the eternal is what > encompasses and sustains time - infinite time if you like. to be timeless is > to be in eternity - the basic primordial flux devoid of any conceptual > differentiation. maybe we visit this dimension in dreams....perhaps thatiis > what it feels like to be a time traveller. >> >> >> >> --- On Mon, 18/8/08, Krimel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> From: Krimel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Subject: Re: [MD] Falling out of Time/Scace >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Received: Monday, 18 August, 2008, 8:30 AM >>> I was thinking more along the line of becoming actually >>> disconnected from >>> space time. You are sounding more like Donnie Darko kind of >>> unstuck or Adian >>> Quinn in the Jacket kind of unstuck. I mean what if you >>> could move your >>> existence along the temporal dimension like Dr. Who does. >>> Back and forth. In >>> time. >>> >>> >>> heya, >>> >>>> So conceptually, abstractly how would your perceptions >>> be >>>> changed if you >>>> fell out or became unhinged from time/space in say, a >>> non a >>>> priori way? >>>> >>> time is subject to dilation/contraction, depending upon >>> your state of mind. >>> when meditating time seems to lose its linear regularity. >>> two hours can seem >>> like a lot shorter. same sorta thing with marijuana or acid >>> - time dilates. >>> >>> being 'in the zone' is one name for a non-linear >>> time experience. when in >>> the zone' it seems like one has plenty of time - to see >>> the ball etc. time >>> is slower for you than for your non-zoned opponent. >>> >>> i suppose that extreme meditators get close to a no-time >>> experience - for >>> the 'now' is eternal. >>> >>> >>> so i don't think you explode...or if you do it is a >>> subtle explosion. >>> >>> >>>> How might it affect your flow rate? >>>> All at once? >>>> Wouldn't you explode? Krimel, sometimes, I wonder, what if the hokey-pokey really IS what it's all about? Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
