DMB On 25 Oct. you wrote:
> Skutvik said: > Again, perhaps this is the said next turn of the Q-screw? I mean as > in LILA where Pirsig speaks about intellect and biology (the levels) > joining forces to quell social value. If we extend this into a > reality where Quality is seen as quasi-level it's "enemy below" is > intellect and it will "join forces" with social value to quell > intellect. This is exactly what caused "LILA" so much bad press at > its publication, Pirsig looked like a reactionary. > dmb says: > Bo, I'm am shocked and horrified by these assertions. I'm disgusted, > actually. You've turned the MOQ into a doctrine that supports > anti-intellectual reactionary politics, if not outright fascism. > This is both incorrect and immoral. Seriously. I used to think you > were just wrong, a mixed up essentialist, but now I think your ideas > are actually kind of bigoted and dangerous. Good, at least I managed to shake up one single person from the slumber that this discussion has been in and show the implications of a MOQ not properly understood. Namely that of being a better intellectual pattern that will replace the S/O patterns (science and knowledge) that have corrupted it. Because these patterns ARE intellect it's back to a social reality if weakened, and this is truly "outright fascism" (at least for a culture that has been at the intellectual level). The S/O distinction must be kept as intellect's value - the highest and best static such - only checked by the DQ/SQ context it's part of. As I sketched regarding the Orient of an intellectual level that didn't develop properly before overwhelmed by a "dynamic" something beyond that "join forces" with social value. The MOQ is no academical dee-da-dum, but a very dangerous idea if not treated with care. I show these dangers and am subject to the "kill the messenger" instinct. Bo Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
