Bodvar, all.
26 Oct. Platt wrote:
Chris before:
> I'm with Bo. And I would also like to add that that's why I get so
> angry at Platt and others using the MOQ as an "anti-intellectual
> reactionary politics" - because I feel that they do just that. By
> alla the Gods and Stuff Like That - I will not sit here and hear
> people go on about their anti-intelelctual agenda and use the "DQ
> card" to escape from reason. Gods how I hate it!
Platt:
Would you care to expand intellectually on this emotional outburst?
I don't like being uses against you Platt, your political view I support
in
many ways. Chris use of "reactionary" is way off, he ought to know the
difference between the left/right spectrum within democratic/
parliamentary rules and the real reactionary despotism/fascism.
I believe you see the value in intellect as the S/O distinction, because
this is Pirsig's original intention (ref. all patterns he deems
intellectual
clearly springs from the objective, detached attitude) and means that
"modernity" is the highest static good, only limited by the DQ/SQ
context it is part of. The danger comes from the view of the MOQ an
intellectual pattern that will pull the rug from under democracy,
science, knowledge - modernity meaning that the intellectual level rots
from the inside and that social value takes over.
I must stress again that a MOQ with S/O-intellect as its highest static
level sees the value of intellect not overwhelming its social base,
checking the tendency of ANY level to go on like the Sorcerer's
Apprentice (who had learned the magical word to start a process but
not the one to stop it)
Bo
Yeees. Well, I feel that arguing for a certain political point of view on
account of it being more dynamic I.e. having/being more DQ etc etc - that's
dangerous. And guess what it will do to the MOQ:
---
"Hey, you know, capitalism is way better than everything else, because it
let's this magical force called Dynamic Quality flourish, you know. Man.
That's awesome!"
"..Go away hippie"
---
DQ can never be used as an argument- because whenever it is encompassed
within an argument - We aren't talking about it!
THAT'S my problem. And has been for a while now.
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