If you empathise with Lila's (Pirsig's) words so much then why did you remonstrate with Arlo's views on avatars and identity?
-KO 2008/10/30 MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > At 08:05 AM 10/30/2008, you wrote: > >> Good job i don't have a daughter then; I have always said i was glad not >> to >> have had a daughter because i think i would have been well out of my depth >> in that role. I have never imagined myself as a woman. I am not concerned >> about 'women's lib', i won't think about it, that is for women to struggle >> with. Men and women to me are like different species, consequently i am >> fascinated by women. >> >> Your laughing sounds scornful to me; i was serious when i offered the >> link. >> > > My laughing is not scornful, but "I mean, I used to play I was this kind of > person and that kind of person but I got so tired of playing all those > games. It's such work and it doesn't do any good. There's just all these > pictures of who I am and they don't hold together. They're all different > people I'm supposed to be but none of them are me. I'm not anybody. I'm not > here. Like you now. I can see you've got a lot of bad impressions about me > in your mind. And you think that what's in your mind is here talking to you > but nobody's here. You know what I mean? Nobody's home. " > > As much as I love ZMM, LILA, the MOQ, RMP and all on this list, I'm here > for Lila. > > > > Don't understand your "yes, no and all of the above", it's not clear to me >> what you are refering to. >> > > I have no other way to explain what I meant. Sorry. > > Marsha > > > > > > > -KO >> >> 2008/10/30 MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> > >> > KO. >> > >> > At 07:06 AM 10/30/2008, you wrote: >> > >> >> I meant harsher than the artistic, feminine, earth woman vibes I >> usually >> >> get >> >> from you - probably I am guilty of stereotyping; rhymed with 'Marsha' >> >> though. >> >> >> > >> > Maybe there is something lacking in your understanding of 'artistic, >> > feminine, earth women'? You aren't one of those men who expect women >> to >> > behave like you would if you were a woman? Many a man has destroyed >> his >> > daughter with that crap. >> > >> > You did get me. I had a good laugh, and a laugh is always good. You >> must >> > have laughed at the thought of offering your article. Nothing has many >> > sides. I hope to laugh at them all. >> > >> > >> > >> > Did you feel shame? Didn't you intent some sarcasm? Where is the real >> >> truth? >> >> Why do we have these emotions? >> >> >> > >> > No, I love to laugh. I can laugh at the both of us. >> > >> > >> > >> > The Bohr quote is too impenetrable for me. >> >> >> >> -KO >> >> >> > >> > To make it simple: yes, no and all of the above. >> > >> > >> > Marsha >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > 2008/10/30 MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > What do you mean by harsher? Harsher than? I didn't read your >> article. >> >> I >> >> > was going to add this Bohr's quote, but didn't. Are you trying to >> shame >> >> me? >> >> > >> >> > I will present it again now: >> >> > >> >> > "There are trivial truths and the great truths. The opposite of a >> >> trivial >> >> > truth is plainly false. The opposite of a great truth is also true." >> >> > - Niels Bohr >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > At 06:29 AM 10/30/2008, you wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> So sarcastic - not so humorous for the couple involved though. >> >> >> Marsha you have a harsher side. >> >> >> >> >> >> KO >> >> >> >> >> >> 2008/10/30 MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Posting the original article was suppose to be humorous. Did I >> make >> >> you >> >> >> > squirm? Was it a virtual squirm? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > At 04:28 AM 10/30/2008, you wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7686595.stm>< >> >> >> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7686595.stm>Hi >> >> >> >> Marsha, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> thought you might like to know of some less negative consequences >> of >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> virtual realm. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This from the BBC: >> >> >> >> Saving Lives in a Virtual World< >> >> >> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7686595.stm> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> regards >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> KO >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > From: MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> >> > Date: 2008/10/24 >> >> >> >> > Subject: Re: [MD] Woman kills avatar >> >> >> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > In recent years, virtual lives have had consequences in the >> real >> >> >> world. >> >> >> >> In >> >> >> >> > August, a woman was charged in Delaware with plotting the >> >> real-life >> >> >> >> > abduction of a boyfriend she met through "Second Life," another >> >> >> virtual >> >> >> >> > interactive world. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081023/ap_on_re_as/as_japan_avatar_murder >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > . >> >> >> >> > . >> >> >> >> > The Universe is uncaused, like a net of jewels in which each is >> a >> >> >> >> > reflection of all the others in a fantastic, interrelated >> harmony >> >> >> >> without >> >> >> >> > end. >> >> >> >> > . >> >> >> >> > . >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list >> >> >> >> > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> >> >> >> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> >> >> >> > Archives: >> >> >> >> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> >> >> >> > 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