above thy gossomer viel

beyond that which

tis male and female

o deep impenitrable myth

project thy form and so to wit

thy difference o thy two 

force curse upon thy lip

e'er lost apon it's shore

dominates for evermore.

cold, alone and full of hate

with wear o time it must abate

release thyself from thine prison make




________________________________
From: MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:21:06 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] Woman kills avatar

At 08:05 AM 10/30/2008, you wrote:
>Good job i don't have a daughter then; I have always said i was glad not to
>have had a daughter because i think i would have been well out of my depth
>in that role. I have never imagined myself as a woman. I am not concerned
>about 'women's lib', i won't think about it, that is for women to struggle
>with. Men and women to me are like different species, consequently i am
>fascinated by women.
>
>Your laughing sounds scornful to me; i was serious when i offered the link.

My laughing is not scornful, but "I mean, I used to play I was this 
kind of person and that kind of person but I got so tired of playing 
all those games. It's such work and it doesn't do any good. There's 
just all these pictures of who I am and they don't hold together. 
They're all different people I'm supposed to be but none of them are 
me. I'm not anybody. I'm not here. Like you now. I can see you've got 
a lot of bad impressions about me in your mind. And you think that 
what's in your mind is here talking to you but nobody's here. You 
know what I mean? Nobody's home. "

As much as I love ZMM, LILA, the MOQ, RMP and all on this list, I'm 
here for Lila.



>Don't understand your "yes, no and all of the above", it's not clear to me
>what you are refering to.

I have no other way to explain what I meant.  Sorry.

Marsha





>-KO
>
>2008/10/30 MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >
> > KO.
> >
> > At 07:06 AM 10/30/2008, you wrote:
> >
> >> I meant harsher than the artistic, feminine, earth woman vibes I usually
> >> get
> >> from you - probably I am guilty of stereotyping; rhymed with 'Marsha'
> >> though.
> >>
> >
> > Maybe there is something lacking in your understanding of 'artistic,
> > feminine, earth women'?  You aren't one of those men who expect women to
> > behave like you would if you were a woman?  Many a man has destroyed his
> > daughter with that crap.
> >
> > You did get me.  I had a good laugh, and a laugh is always good.  You must
> > have laughed at the thought of offering your article.  Nothing has many
> > sides.  I hope to laugh at them all.
> >
> >
> >
> >  Did you feel shame? Didn't you intent some sarcasm? Where is the real
> >> truth?
> >> Why do we have these emotions?
> >>
> >
> > No, I love to laugh.  I can laugh at the both of us.
> >
> >
> >
> >  The Bohr quote is too impenetrable for me.
> >>
> >> -KO
> >>
> >
> > To make it simple: yes, no and all of the above.
> >
> >
> > Marsha
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  2008/10/30 MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > What do you mean by harsher?  Harsher than?  I didn't read your article.
> >>  I
> >> > was going to add this Bohr's quote, but didn't.  Are you trying to shame
> >> me?
> >> >
> >> > I will present it again now:
> >> >
> >> > "There are trivial truths and the great truths. The opposite of a
> >> trivial
> >> > truth is plainly false. The opposite of a great truth is also true."
> >> >        - Niels Bohr
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > At 06:29 AM 10/30/2008, you wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> So sarcastic - not so humorous for the couple involved though.
> >> >> Marsha you have a harsher side.
> >> >>
> >> >> KO
> >> >>
> >> >> 2008/10/30 MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Posting the original article was suppose to be humorous.  Did I make
> >> you
> >> >> > squirm?    Was it a virtual squirm?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > At 04:28 AM 10/30/2008, you wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7686595.stm><
> >> >> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7686595.stm>Hi
> >> >> >> Marsha,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> thought you might like to know of some less negative consequences of
> >> >> the
> >> >> >> virtual realm.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> This from the BBC:
> >> >> >> Saving Lives in a Virtual World<
> >> >> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7686595.stm>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> regards
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> KO
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > From: MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >> >> > Date: 2008/10/24
> >> >> >> > Subject: Re: [MD] Woman kills avatar
> >> >> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > In recent years, virtual lives have had consequences in the real
> >> >> world.
> >> >> >> In
> >> >> >> > August, a woman was charged in Delaware with plotting the
> >> real-life
> >> >> >> > abduction of a boyfriend she met through "Second Life," another
> >> >> virtual
> >> >> >> > interactive world.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081023/ap_on_re_as/as_japan_avatar_murder
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > .
> >> >> >> > .
> >> >> >> > The Universe is uncaused, like a net of jewels in which each is a
> >> >> >> > reflection of all the others in a fantastic, interrelated harmony
> >> >> >> without
> >> >> >> > end.
> >> >> >> > .
> >> >> >> > .
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
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