Hi Bo
Chris had written:
The fact of the matter remains: Democracy, which is a certain way of
governing people, is NOT of the intellectual level as such, because it
is a social pattern. It may be used to lift up intellectual values,
intellectual values that has truth at it's core, but it can just as
easily not be. This is not an issue about words, nor is it SOM
thinking.
Bo replied:
You seemingly hold that any kind of government is a social pattern be
it despotism or democracy and protest my pointing out that a lower
pattern (and despotism is the rock bottom social rule) may be
overlaid/controlled by intellect. But you contradicted yourself in the
next post by saying
"Indeed I do. Real socialism for me means real democracy.
Real socialism to me means a society where people have the
time and the means to fully exercise a intellectually guided
democracy. I that isn't so, then it isn't a socialist society in my
book."
".... fully exercise a intellectually guided democracy" is correct in the
sense that socialism, social-democracy, right wing, left wing, any
shade of poltical view in between are solidly inside the democratic-
parliamentary kind of rule. The true social level is so totally different
that I find it difficult to take this serious.
Bodvar
I do not disagree that a lower level pattern may be overlaid and controlled
by a higher one, all I'm saying is that intellect doesn't control the
social level only because we have democracy. Intellect controls the social
level when intellectual values are always more central than social ones. I
can imagine that when everyone within a democracy let's rationality
supersede social level values every time they are in conflict - that would
be the ideal state for the intellectual level.
Regards
Chris
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