Hi Horse 1 Nov. you wroteto Platt
> Just a minor point - why do equate reason (or "reason alone") with > SOM. Surely reason is an intellectual POV and not a whole metaphysical > system. Platt is most justifyed in equating SOM and Reason. Reason is objectivity itself (not in the usual "I have reason to believe... etc.) but as "... contrasted with emotions and instincts" (as my dictionary says) and translated into moqish becomes; (Intellect) as contrasted with society and biology. Most apt. Show me one pattern you deem intellectual that's not a S/O derivative. SOM is no metaphysical system after being subsumed by the MOQ. Bo > > Platt Holden wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > > > > >> I do not disagree that a lower level pattern may be overlaid and > >> controlled by a higher one, all I'm saying is that intellect > >> doesn't control the social level only because we have democracy. > >> Intellect controls the social level when intellectual values are > >> always more central than social ones. I can imagine that when > >> everyone within a democracy let's rationality supersede social > >> level values every time they are in conflict - that would be the > >> ideal state for the intellectual level. > >> > > > > Two problems with relying on intellectual level rationality.1) > > Reason alone (SOM) doesn't provide a basis for moral judgments. 2) > > "So convenient it is to be a rational creature, since it enables us > > to find or make a reason for everything one has a mind to do." -- > > Benjamin Franklin. Obviously 1 and 2 are related. Example: In the > > current presidential contest there is no lack of reasons on either > > side to cast one's vote. > > > > Platt > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > > > > -- > > Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of > arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but to skid > in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly > used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"... > Hunter S Thompson > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
