At 06:08 AM 11/2/2008, you wrote:
Hi Horse
On 2 Nov.u wrote:
> Hi Platt, Bo and others
> So can you give me an instance of where Pirsig specifically equates
> reason with SOM.
I doubt if the term (reason) is used other than in the said "reasoning"
context, not to speak of "....specifically equating reason with SOM",
but French has its "Raison" and German its "Vernunft" that has a more
objective ring to it than merely drawing conclusions. And that
SOM=objectivity you can hardly deny*).
BTW. This exemplifies the point that keep surfacing again and again.
>From the inside intellect reason is the ability to think, while the MOQ
sees reason as the ability to distinguish between what's TRUE
(objective) and what's superstition, faith, belief (subjective) ... and that
this is the highest static value!
Bo
PS
*) the "SOM=Objectivity" assertion sounds a bit strange these days,
after all the idealists claim that (objective seen) everything is subjective
(mind).
Bo,
Do not include me. I do not think everything is subjective. Subject
and object are co-dependent. There is extramental form. Seeing,
tasting, feeling, smelling, hearing is direct experience,,, knowing
is a conceptual experience. That's my interpretation. But I
definitely think there is natural phenomenon, but not objects.
.
.
The Universe is uncaused, like a net of jewels in which each is a
reflection of all the others in a fantastic, interrelated harmony without end.
.
.
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