Hi Horse, [Horse wrote] > So can you give me an instance of where Pirsig specifically equates > reason with SOM.
"It employs SOM reasoning the way SOM reasoning employs social structures such as courts and journals and learned societies to make itself known. SOM reasoning is not subordinate to these social structures, and the MOQ is not subordinate to the SOM structures it employs. Remember that the central reality of the MOQ is not an object or a subject or anything else. It is understood by direct experience only and not by reasoning of any kind. Therefore to say that the MOQ is based on SOM reasoning is as useful as saying that the Ten Commandments are based on SOM reasoning. It doesn't tell us anything about the essence of the Ten Commandments and it doesn't tell us anything about the essence of the MOQ." (Note 132, LC) Platt > Platt Holden wrote: > >> Hi Platt > >> > >> Just a minor point - why do equate reason (or "reason alone") with SOM. > >> Surely reason is an intellectual POV and not a whole metaphysical > >> system. > >> > >> Horse > >> > > > > Hi Horse, > > > > Bo has given a fine answer to your question. Here's another one. From > the > > Wikipedia entry on "reason:" > > > > "Reasoning thought follows a chain of cause and effect, and the word > > 'reason' can be a synonym for 'cause.' " > > > > >From Note 56, Lila's Child: > > > > "The word 'produced' implies that Dynamic quality is a part of a cause > and > > effect system of the kind generated by scientific thinking. But Dynamic > > Quality cannot be part of any cause and effect system since all cause > and > > effect systems are static patterns." > > > > Great to hear from you. It gives me an opportunity to express my > > appreciation for the high quality of your design and maintenance of > this > > site. All participants past and present owe you a debt of gratitude if > not > > cash contributions which you have repeatedly refused to ask for or > accept. > > Be assured, however, that your efforts have not been overlooked or > > forgotten. I know I speak for many here in saying, "Thanks." > > > > Regards, > > Platt Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
