Hello Bo, on 11/4 you wrote:
You seemingly agree with me that mathematics is S/O-based, but this agreement is based on the . "Skilled manipulation of abstract symbols that have no corresponding particular experience and which behave according to rules of their own". which was Pirsig's effort to improve on the ill-conceived 4th. level without accepting the SOL. Mathematics is S/O because it was a newfangled objective, rational approach (to the age-old craft of calculation) that began around the same time as SOM emerged in Greece (according to ZAMM) The said age-old calculation was applying LOGIC by the said "skilled manipulation ..." and something that the social age (level) people were as good at as ourselves. Ron: Inductive inference, as you say, pre-dates the ancient Greeks but what the Greeks did was develop and place emphasis on the deductive. Deductive inference deals mainly with abstract symbols that have no corresponding particular experience and which behave according to rules of their own". The formal deduction of abstract "entites" is what really defines Greek thought and the whole of western enterprise up to modern times. > But, The intellectual level as defined by western thought does not > encompass all intellectual patterns only those patterns which recognize > essentialism and it's assumptions. Nonsense. "Western thought" doesn't know or recognize any "intellectual level" because it IS the intellectual level, encompasses every last bit of it and can't see beyond it. Elementary Dr. Kulp Ron: Making my above assertion correct. SOM is blind to all intellectual patterns save the ones it traditionally values. Thanks Bo. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
