Ham:
Luckily, we in America would never fall for a young leader who promised
change without asking, "what change?"  Would we?



woods:
  Exactly.  It looks like some are afraid to say what change Obama will bring
 ala the posts I sent.  U.S. funded Iran nuclear program and beating the war 
drums at the same time.  Obama voted with Bush on all the scary stuff the left 
said they didn't like Bush for.  Obama was the biggest war-monger in the 
election process more than any other candidate.  McCain was taken aback 
by Obama even, during the debates.  Obama calls for a civilian national 
security force more funded than the military, and now he picks a Chief of 
Staff person that wrote about a book and how the U.S. needs this.
  Oh, Obama will change things alright.  He's going to go along with 
this current agenda of Bush and make it even worse.  He's voting 
record supports this.  He's smiling calm will erode U.S. sovereignty 
as he joins together this World Financial System that is taking about 
regulating countries aka governing them through the financial system.  He 
received more money from from the big banks (4 times more) than McCain.  
Yeah, the bankers, CIA, and military industrial complex got the guy they 
wanted.  They needed a new guy to sell this power mongering that's been 
going on for over 60 years now.  The empire will live on.
    What do people even care about?  I guess as long as their party guy 
got in, but nobody on this forum talks about the policies just the smiling 
guy and how calm he is.  Maybe people like this growing empire and lose 
of freedoms in the country.  Maybe that's what's going on.  Maybe people 
have forgotten how to take care of themselves that much and now they 
think only the intellectuals and gov't can really make the best solutions.  We 
don't need more zombies and thus intellectuals and gov't telling us what's 
best.  
We need the tools in our own hearts and hands to make our own moral choices 
in freedom once again, but these have been eroded away for so long that people 
forget that the immorality is not in the people not knowing.  There uneducated 
for 
a reason.  This country doesn't give people their own self-initiative anymore.  
They've 
taken away their moral intellectual compass, and now these intellectuals and 
gov't 
come in and they think they can lecture people what's best.  It should be the 
people 
are empowered and their own self-reliance is grounded in a moral compass that 
ONLY comes about when they are given responsibilities instead of others taking 
over their responsibilities and making the population dependent, consumer crack 
junkies.


woods  


woods


      
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