Hello Andrè
On 9 Nov. you wrote:
Bodvar before (to Mati)
> > OK, It isn't easy to find our way - language included - in a new
> > metaphysical territory (like America it will be many New ... this and
> > that) but I believe that the "SOM as intellect" tenet is now generally
> > accepted (among the thinkers) and that means that the MOQ is no
> > intellectual pattern and thus saved. DMB will probably repeat "Bo is
> > wrong" till he drops, but that can't be helped.
Andre asks:
> Bodvar, is this what you have been trying to tell me for the past
> million years: that the MoQ is a 'frame of mind' (for want of a better
> phrase), and that it's mouthpiece (if you like) is still framed in
> SOL/ language because our intellect is dominated by SOM? Can I put it
> in this way?
Million years! Right ;-) and I guess things may be interpreted the way
you do. The static levels have in turn had had the privilege of being Q-
evolution's leading edge and act as existence's purpose, but then -
due to the new level's arrival - have sunk back into the static "mass"
that constitute the fundament for the next top level and for tens of
thousands of years the social level's god-centered reality ruled. This
was what intellect faced and what its objectivity tried to control by
making religion into (mere) subjective ... whatever ("religion" isn't the
only way to characterize the 3rd. level but one of the best).
But - and this is the point - intellect did not take over at once, but had
to use the social level's terminology for centuries. Throughout the
Middle Ages it's cause was cloaked in religious terms with Medieval
thinkers discussing "the nature" of God ..etc. without knowing that "the
nature" is intellect's objectivity in disguise. Now, with the MOQ's arrival
- and in spite of being the Q-Context itself and thus neither static nor
dynamic - it assumes a level-like relationship with intellect and the
same situation occurs. I guess this is what the Menu/Reality and
Map/Terrain issues are about. The hitch is that the MOQ can't be
subversive and let it's cause ripen inside intellect, lest it will be a
reactionary force.
> If so, the penny is beginning to drop...don't know where it will land
> yet though.
OK it's a long drop.
Bodvar
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