Marsha 16 Nov. you wrote:
Bo before: > >The static inorganic level=the universe, if it is "conventional" or > >not? Marsha: > You seem to be missing the word _referent_. An inorganic spov is a > conventional, conceptual construct that refers to external phenomenon > (that which you are calling the universe). Our senses are too > limited, and our interpretation of sense experience too limited to say > exactly what is that which you are calling the universe. That is why > it is 'conventionally' understood. Quality is indivisible, undefinable > and unknowable. You haven't even begun to understand the MOQ's level aspect, that there was a social era before the intellectual that knew no S/O distinction*) and because you are lodged in S/O-intellect you have no inkling that it means that INTELLECT is static (limited) too, but go on speaking from intellect's premises as if these are identical to MOQ's. NB! The social level is still part of our constitution, but the time when it was "leading edge" does best reveal its significance. The social reality level knew no "referent/what it refers to", no "internal/external", "conceptual/non-conceptual" or any other S/O distinctions. The referent and what it referred to was united. Language wasn't concepts about something else, the names had magical significance. Rituals (song and dance) could alter the course of events .... etc You think that this was ignorance (which it was in a static context) and that (our intellectual) "... our interpretations of sense experience being limited" i.e. that there is an objective reality out there that our senses just give us a subjective variety of ..... that this corresponds to MOQ's DQ/SQ distinction. "O Sancta Simplicitas" (as the Roman said) If MOQ's primary purpose is to replace SOM's "in here/out there" dichotomy as existence's fundamental chasm, then to say that it (the S/O) corresponds to MOQ'S Static/Dynamic dichotomy is hilarious .. hadn't it been so disastrous. Bo Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
