Hi Ham,

Andre quoted ZMM with an assertion:
'At the moment of pure Quality, subject and object are identical'.
(ZMM p 284).)...only later are static PoV's deduced. To be aware
of this event and this subsequent process one must step into a
MoQ 'paradigm'.

Ham responded:
All experience is differentiated and relational.  Even self-awareness,
once realized by the child, differentiates his identity from others.

I agree that self-awareness is differentiating the self from what is experienced, but why do you suppose that there is no such thing as undifferentiated non-relational expedience? This is just an assumption. Why not postulate for the sake of argument that knowledge arises out of experience and experience is Quality?

Have you gotten around to reading Pirsig's books?

Best,
Steve

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