KO,

I sometimes pretend to be angry. I hardly ever am. But of course now that I've said that, I will be tested.

I think the raft parable concerns what should be done once you have reached the other shore. I just pointed out that a raft is useful to help get across.

I am very taken by Eastern thought. I have been since I first read Krishnamurti some twenty-five years ago. I don't know how to explain my attraction. It was intense right from the beginning.

Sorry I didn't mean to confuse you.


Marsha






At 02:56 AM 11/28/2008, you wrote:
Marsha, i am impressed by your reply - that you didnt react angrily to my
dismissal of your passage; but i still cannot take anything useful from your
parable.

-KO

2008/11/27 MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> At 01:49 PM 11/27/2008, KO wrote:
>
>  Marsha, you know i was referring to Pao-t'ung's message;
>> all those other shores, true sources, original face, unborn,
>> free spirits, etc etc - it is too vague.
>>
>
> KO,
>
> I presented this quote because it refers to the raft parable, that is,
> needing assistance until one realizes fully.
>
>
>  And the last two sentences - why does he have to be so
>> obscure?
>>
>
> Some of the MOQ seems obscure.  Is it?
>
>
>  I suppose if all that stuff doesnt make sense to me that
>> must mean that i am not spiritual enough, or not
>> compassionate enough, or not sensitive enough.
>>
>
> Not so.  It may mean that you are not familiar with the raft parable and
> its association.
>
>
>  I like the Tao Te Ching alright but that passage only
>> depresses me.
>>
>
> I would imagine that raft comes in many shapes and colors.  The MOQ would
> be one of them.
>
>
>  I cant give you an interpretation because
>> the passage is just too inpenetrable for me.
>>
>
> Okay.  I thought there was some in particular you wanted to challenge.
>
> (continued below)
>
>
>
>  2008/11/27 MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> >
>> > KO,
>> >
>> > I'd be curious to what message you are questioning, and your
>> interpretation
>> > of it?
>> >
>> > Marsha
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > At 05:23 AM 11/27/2008, you wrote:
>> >
>> >> Marhsa, are you open to the idea that the message may
>> >>be misleading, impractical and impossible;
>>
>
> I am open to the fact that the message may be beyond my understanding.  I
> worry about this.  I sometimes wish I had a teacher, but I've heard RamDas
> say a teacher will play to the expectations of the student. - No, I do not
> think it is impractical.  Impossible?  Sometimes.
>
>
>  >>  it is scary to cast off ideas that we have clung
>> >> to for years.
>>
>
> Sometimes it's hard, sometimes it easy.  Sometimes it is hard because it's
> so easy.
>
>
> Marsha
>
>
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