Ham,

Not to step between you and Khoo, but
where do you see what you allege in
the MoQ? (below)


<snip>
Ham:
>  In short, the MoQ dismisses the essential 
>  nature of  the individual which is that of a  
>  free, value-sensible agent.
> 
mel:
It seems to me that Pirsig worked very hard
to illustrate that man IS in exactly that position.

Further, your quoted assertion that: 
("...this leaves us with a philosophy that is 
      flawed by 'the separation of the individual 
      from the universe.' " ) 

It seems clear to me that in a metaphysic that
leaves each layer dependent upon each layer 
below it for existence that there can be no
separation of the individual from the universe.
Not ever.

The inherent structure of the old, mistaken, 
mind-matter problem left us the appearance of 
separation, but MoQ corrects that.

...off to mow the dog and water the cat....

thanks--mel






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