Bo said to dmb: ...but then no more about any Quality "out there" and a theoretical or verbal DQ/SQ "in our minds". If the MOQ is to be a break with SOM the first break must be with this arch-SOM-ish notion.
dmb says:I don't think Quality is "out there" or otherwise comparable to objective reality as it is thought of within SOM. In fact, this is what Marsha has been trying to tell you. That would make Quality a kind of thing-in-itself, with inherent existence, which is to say it would be the true ontological nature of the universe regardless of what anyone thinks of it or whether or not it can be perceived at all. In the MOQ there is no "out there". The idea of an independent external reality is just that, an idea. The MOQ equates reality with experience and so in that sense what "in our minds" is quite real and not "just" subjective. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™ Hotmail®…more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_howitworks_012009 Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
