dmb said: In the MOQ there is no "out there". The idea of an independent external reality is just that, an idea.
Krimel replied: I would say this view of the MoQ is indistinguishable from solipsism. dmb says: Solipsism is a problem arises when one is thinking within those Cartesian assumptions we call SOM. But the MOQ rejects those assumptions and instead agrees that our ideas are culturally derived and so the problem of being trapped in your own subjectivity doesn't come up. [Krimel] Culturally derived? Cartesian assumptions? From whence does "culture" and "assumption" come? If there is no "out there" how is your form of radical idealism different from solipsism. Saying that you are rejecting solipsism by rejecting Descartes is just rearranging the bumper stickers on your car. By the way Descartes "cogito" is not at all to be equated with Cartesian dualism. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
