> Ron:
> I think Michael is approaching this pragmatically, the question being
> "is theism usefull in a Quality way?"    sure, but it also perpetuates
> objectivism (SOM) which is the downside which ultimately will
> interfere with a quality understanding of what MoQ proposes.

MP: Again, Ron, thanks for succinct clarity.  That sums it up. I acknowledge 
the 
downside, but given what I believe of culture as it is, see a greater one in 
ditching theism IMO prematurely, let alone actively attacking it.


> Ron:
> In effect when it comes right down to the major abstract concepts
> and their understanding, the two will conflict. This is what needs
> to be expressed to him..

MP: You just did ;-)


> Ron:
> Utimately essentialism is the problem.

MP: I'm not a philospher by education. I will need to read up on essentialism. 
Suggestions are welcome, the less haughty the better; I have Aristotle to put 
me to sleep already. Soon as I'm done with the Campbell books I picked up 
today I will get to essentialism.


Enjoying this folks. Glad I dared post. Only sorry dmb and I got off so poorly.

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