MP/all, <snip> > > From: MarshaV > > 208 "The MOQ would add a fourth stage where the term "God" is > > completely dropped as a relic of an evil social suppression of > > intellectual and Dynamic freedom. The MOQ is not just atheistic in > > this regard. It is anti-theistic." > > MP: Thanks for those, Marsha. > > The one that I think most caught my eye was the one above. The question I > think that needs to be asked of adherents of MoQ is: Does the MoQ's anti- > theistic nature demand anti-theistic responses to theism in seeking Quality in a > theistic world? Is anti-theism the way to covercome theism in an MoQ approach > just because the MoQ is itself anti-theistic? > > My current feeling is no; it does not demand it, and in fact IMO (see my last post > about superstion in baseball) anti-theism in a theistic context is anti-quality in > from an MoQ POV.
mel: I wonder if part of this discussion is an artifact of language. In many languages the name of a god/God/GOD...is one that can be traced backward through a twisting path of evolution. English seems to just refer to the 'role' capitalized and that makes it appear very culturally bound. Old testament treatment did at one time insist on no name at all, the thinking being that to name is to substitute the illusion of an understanding for an unboundedness beyond human reality. I think most of us are brought up with a god that is an old bearded guy on a ceiling somewhere--and little else. If we were seeing a definition of a god that can be named is not the true god and a god that can be described is no the true description, then I think we might also consider that anything said about that god is not the truth, either. I may be wrong, but in such a tao-istic formulation of the old testament sensibility, it makes theistic, a theistic, anti-theistic all taking aim at a target that isn't there. The target that can be hit is not the true target. This is not an attempt to rescue or defend one side or the other, but analogous to some of the exploration of non-finite sets and orders of infinity work in math, I think both sides are looking at an argument too small for the problem space... While I am skeptical of organized religious organizations my real concern is that I think we are wasting energy. thanks--mel Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
