Hello, Dallas,
> Really, the issue of "experiencing the color red' is pretty much
irrelevant.
> The perception of red as opposed to green serves as a purpose. To seek a
> deeper or hidden meaning behind it is to grasp at shadows, it's as simple
as
> that.
>
mel:
1) Really, the issue of "experiencing the color red'
is pretty much irrelevant.
2) The perception of red as opposed to green
serves as a purpose.
3) To seek a deeper or hidden meaning behind
it is to grasp at shadows, it's as simple as
that.
These are three very interesting sentences to juxtapose.
My first reaction was that this feels of the sensibilities of
SOM. Discounting experience seems like calling it subjective.
The presumed significance of purpose abstracts us to objective
and the last sentence is a double-tap of dismissal of the
subjective and ridicule from a presumed objective stance.
Your education was well patterned in the SOM worldview
and/or your talent at concise argument in SOM forms is
impressive.
The contained assumptions express a lovely invitation to
contrast them from an MoQ perspective, not as an argument
or rebuttal, but as illumination of difference.
>From the perspective of a tightly personal point of
consciousness of the experience with minimal
immediate 'scattering' in cognition and only
later gentle reflection. The subject of the sentences
as value within the flow of quality mean something
different.
Re: sentence 1,
The patterns of the world that arise to contain our
point-of-view is as a mold that fills with the cast of
personally reactive patterns and in the consciousness
between mold and cast becomes Experience.
Between the static patterns we recall, and the mix
of static and dynamic that in their tension inform our
world is the immediately, impressionable 'membrane'
of perception that absorbs the dynamic quality of the
integration-differential of what never came together
before.
Experience is all we have. But keep in mind,
the immediate scattering in cognition can
interfere by raising the noise against the signal, and
the later reflection can mute the volume of the
experience.
Re: sentence 2,
The comparison between the pattern of redness
and the pattern of greenness you've pointed at as
having purpose. Presumably this is an implication
that either experience alone is unimportant, but
together they provide a foundation for intellectual
discrimination to build as a structure.
(That is where your 'value' is in S2, perhaps?)
However,
It assumes another value in Quality when the
pattern of each color inhabits and invests
us in clear experience and then as interfering
and supporting patterns arise to inform
perception with more value before the evaluation
becomes restricted to reflection in-the-past.
The more open, calm, and attentive a person
is, the more deeply the experience penetrates.
Re: sentence 3,
To seek meaning in just the distracted
reflection after-the-fact with a noisy and
inattentive, 'scattered' cognition IS to
chase after shadows.
However, open, calm experience does
penetrate deeper into the present patterns
of who we each are in accumulated 'history'.
And in harmonics the response of patterns
interacting reflect, reanimate, respond, and
combinations that never were before loose
a certain static-dynamic tension that is richer
in 'meaning' (better signal to noise...)
or said another way, we learn more when
we are attentive.
example:
The red of the letters on a six-month old,
grubby mass transit sign will elicit low
amounts of meaning on the hundredth
time we see it.
The first full tulip of spring in the radiant
depths of its textures and the varieties of
redness in the patterns arising from our
full(er) attention is a higher quality experience.
In either scenario, experience is all we have.
Thanks for letting me juggle the sentences
and pov's.
thx--mel
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