On Monday 9 February 2009 11:54 PM Bo addresses Joe:

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Joe
> Bo, in many of your statements you propose a triad: MOQ DQ/SQ.
 
Maybe, but I was fooled by the said "diagram" and the
language/reality variety of SOM that Pirsig falls victim to. The MOQ
is the "DQ/SQ "dualism. Full stop!
 
> As a basis for metaphysics why not keep the triad,
 
There are several - endless actually - systems of calculations, we
use the decimal system while computers use the binary, but
regarding metaphysics there is only the "binary" dualisms. The
said Christian divine family is often called a trinity, but it's really a
dualism "The Divine realm/This realm".
 
> DQ/SQ and the umbrella MOQ?  This is manifestation. As for the order
> I prefer 7 steps with the eighth being a repeat of 1 at doubled
> intensity. 
 
Hi Bo and all,

The depth of your calculations are astounding!  Thank You!

A point that I am trying to explicate is that a duality is immovable.  It is
only the 0 that leaves the opening for further comment or evolution or
conceptualization.   0 is MOQ (neutral)/1 is Active (dynamic) DQ/2 is
Passive (static) SQ. Without three there is only the circle of + -.
Movement (evolution) ceases.  0 is necessary or 1 and 2 are in an eternal
circle.  How to conceptualize MOQ?  0 Neutral to 1 active and 2 passive.  In
evolutionary terms Inorganic reproduction collision, Organic 1
reproduction/division, Organic 2 reproduction cell-wall penetration, Social
conscious SO, intellectual SOL, Higher social evolution of S only O modifies
interiorly, Higher intellectual evolution of S only O modifies interiorly.

Joe   



On 2/9/09 11:54 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Joe
>> Bo, in many of your statements you propose a triad: MOQ DQ/SQ.
> 
> Maybe, but I was fooled by the said "diagram" and the
> language/reality variety of SOM that Pirsig falls victim to. The MOQ
> is the "DQ/SQ "dualism. Full stop!
> 
>> As a basis for metaphysics why not keep the triad,
> 
> There are several - endless actually - systems of calculations, we
> use the decimal system while computers use the binary, but
> regarding metaphysics there is only the "binary" dualisms. The
> said Christian divine family is often called a trinity, but it's really a
> dualism "The Divine realm/This realm".
> 
>> DQ/SQ and the umbrella MOQ?  This is manifestation. As for the order I
>> prefer 7 steps with the eighth being a repeat of 1 at doubled
>> intensity. 


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