> Ron:
> Arlo, you are missing the point, His arguement rests solely on the MoQ as 
> atheistic or anti-theistic statement. Which does acknowledge the belief
> of God if not G*D himself by virtue of denial, alas he does not
> yet see that MoQ really does not take a stand on the issue, Pirsig does,
> but I argue that MoQ does not. MoQ sees it as just another explaination for
> expereince, end of story. Thus there really isn't any arguement.
> Just Michael wanting us to all to see it his way.

MP: If by that you mean "wanting you to see it my way rather than yours," then 
absolutely no. Not my intention AT ALL. If by that you mean "wanting you to see 
what I see" then yes, that's kind of where I am on this. And who can blame one 
human for wanting to have others understand his personal perspective. Isn't 
that to a great degree part of being human?

My position has changed on this topic substantially having discussed it with 
you 
all. I'm in some ways more clear on parts, and in others decidedly more 
confused. I take that as a sign of learning.
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