Hi Bo,

2009/2/17 <[email protected]>

>
> "..the Classic MoQ () whereby all human experience has two
> polarised aspects - mind and matter..." ?  At least you are honest.
> Classic - orthodox (I call) - MOQ still subscribe to the SOM!!! I just
> had a hunch before, now it's affirmed.
>

i certainly dont subscribe to assumed intellectual elitism. Bo, you perceive
the world of objects, you cannot do otherwise; even though you also know
that at the learning edge there are no subjects and objects.
If Pirsigs idea of levels was evolutionary, then there would be more levels
as yet unrevealed by evolution, but the quality point of view would still be
the root principle notwithstanding any 5th level. If there were a 5th level
of freedom in existence in the history of evolution it would be the virtual
level.

> It may be because those cultures/religions are more binding than for
> instance the Anglican that you dont see more vocal objections - but
> there are some Omid Djalil - always believe it - you are

> > indestructible<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XULtWR37Glk>who are more
> > outspoken.
>
> I had problems with this paragraph, but about the Muslim culture
> being more "binding" you can bet (your life) on, and this raises
> another question. How will European Islam develop, will they - like
> the Jews of old  - remain unassimilable and stick to their rituals
> which is the social level's hallmark. We know that in Jewdom and
> Islam, humans have no soul that can be saved by faith (this is
> SOM's "religious" impact on Christendom) they have to perform
> the rituals to be Jews and/or Muslims.
>

No, i did not know that the idea of soul is alien to Islam and those of the
Hebrew way. It is just unrealistic to think that a Muslim suicide bomber has
no intellectual capacity. He too has both social and intellectual patterns
of activity as well inorganic and biological substrata.

I will check the link when I reach civilization in a day or two .


Should be good for a laugh.

-KO
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