Hi Joe I invited Michael Poloukhine to the "skepticism" debate but he suddenly clammed shut.
20 Feb you wrote: (on the issue why the alleged Muslim science - that flourished while Europe was in its Medieval hibernation - didn't develop the kind of scientific skepticism that so dominate the West? I,e, distance itself from religion. > In my study of medieval philosophy I recall Arabian authors Avicenna, > and Averrhoes in the 12th century discussing Aristotle before Thomas > Aquinas. I believe Aquinas quotes them. Also Moses Maimonides was > mentioned. I guess Arabian and Jewish philosophy was SOM. Most interesting Joe. However if philosophy (necessarily) is SOM is a big question. One way seen philosophy means truth-seeking in the Greek sense that in Greece resulted in a break with the mythological god-centered past. But as the Dark Ages descended philosophy deteriorated into studying the God-given reality, no skepticism about those premises.. > Evolution is later and I have no idea how Arabian and Jewish thought > incorporates evolution into their culture. Do you mean biological - Darwinian - evolution, if so it definitely was much later, and it would be too much to expect THAT to emerge, my hunch however is that.Greek SOM began to influence Christendom and pry it away from its social - Semitic - roots, developing its intellectual branch. Humankind got an eternal soul different from its perishable body (a S/O pattern) And the rest is history. > As for a theory of how we know things, abstraction etc., I imagine > William James, Pirsig and others are fairly recent, and have not been > absorbed into Jewish or Arabian culture. James and Pirsig never becoming part of Jew and Muslim "canon" is for sure ;-) and my guess is that Judaism and Islam never will - cannot - develop a similar "intellectual" branch, that window of opportunity is closed. > As far as being incomprehensible. I am sure my writing is disjointed > as I try to express how I feel things. Emotions and senses though > indefinable are as much a part of knowledge as Intellectual > expression. It is easy to make knowledge mechanical. I try to fight > that and add emotional and sensational elements. I am sorry if it is > obscure. Disregard my sarcasms, keep thinking and posting Bo Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
