> Krimel said: Quality and "simple biological self preservation" are
> one and the same thing. [AND HE SAID] So Quality in this way has a
> much greater significance that "simple biological self
> preservation".
> 
> dmb says:I think these statements are at odds with each and that the
> latter is better. I think they're in sync if we say "simple
> biological self preservation" is a static 2nd level response to
> Quality. To say they are one and the same is to explain DQ in
> reductionistic, materialistic terms. If the hot stove example was
> meant to be a discussion of physiology he could have just said it
> was instinct and the sense of touch that gets you off the stove.
> This is not wrong, so much as beside the point. Yes, he's saying
> that the sense of quality is completely natural and
> non-intellectual, as even Arlo's dog knows, but biological responses
> to Quality are just one of the ways of responding. Not that I've
> ever walked on hot coals. But I have napped in the sun. 

MP: My reaction as well. If Quality really is just reflex, why bother going on 
about Quality?

MP
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