Arlo to Andre: In this since, the very presence of inorganic patterns of value indicates that even subatomic particles tend towards certain preferred responses, i.e., they tend towards preference.
Andre: Hi Arlo, yes, this was something that really excited me when I read it and, of course, cannot be otherwise within the evolutionary/ moral considerations built into the MoQ. Though, I thought there were some here who see this as hogwash i.e particles exhibiting preference. Arlo: This is why I emphasize that "static patterns" are "patterns of preferred value". They are not dead, lifeless or unexciting. They are the Gestalt we see atop a swarm of immediate experiences. And the tendency towards preference is, coupled with dynamic uncertainty, the complimentary dance that fuels evolution. Andre: Yes, and it bothered Anthony as well who suggested 'stable' instead of 'static' which goes some way to reflecting what we mean. I like yours as well. Arlo Of course not. I fully agree. And if you read that into what I said about "things tend towards preference", I apologize for not being clearer. Andre: You were clear, I said this with a wink to Platt. Arlo: Better to say, "The extent to which we are comfortable in our routines will determine the extent to which we allow ourselves to respond in unpredicted ways (in new ways, in creative ways, in uncertain ways) to our immediate experience". Andre: Complete agreement on 'different' as well. Can we disagree about something Arlo? This is getting too static for me. What about the notion floating around here that everything abstracted/extracted from DQ is conceptual, making you and me and our histories, conceptual, my flat, table, children, girlfriend, cars, etc. etc. concepts. In other words, all static patterns of value are concepts (all in the head?!). All 'patterned' , preferred reality is 'concepts' I feel very uneasy about this but must admit I haven't thought it through completely. Regards Andre Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
