Hi Andre, Your words put me in tears!
The best to you! Joe On 3/23/09 4:21 PM, "Andre Broersen" <[email protected]> wrote: > Platt to Andre: > Both the right and the good are needed, Andre. Don't you agree? Recall that > intellect is the keeper of individual "human rights" vs. society. > > Andre: > Can't agree more Platt. This requires wisdom. Let's insure that our > 'intellect' gets the priorities right...and if Bodvar's SOL argument is > correct then this is going to take a while yet and 'human rights' remain > under constant threat. Especially now. > In Holland I see a desparate clinging to Aristotelian logic in order to save > the monetairy system. Human rights and accomplishments > (pensions/benefits/hard-worked-for securities/ retirement age/ job security/ > quality of care/education) on the slide ...sure, these are social PoV's but > the intellectual level needs to addres these issues and come on top of > them,... otherwise it will go bad, very bad. > You cannot leave your parents in the cold in order to save a > social/biological pattern based on greed, egotism, selfishness and division. > > > But I think that this is the core of the problem: SOM, and most of its > derivatives ARE social/biological level thinking (arguing, justifying and > reasoning). > Total solipsism,... self gratification as a continual feedback loop to > reinforce and regenerate its own image and justification of itself. An > absolute mindless dynamism which Pirsig suggested was and is mindless. You > cannot trace the pattern exept for the feedback-loop...the giant feeding > upon itself...re-inventing itself everyday of the week, patterns and > fashions returning every twenty years or so. Same clothes, different names > for the same thing, hairstyles, ideas, philosophies, popular scientific > breakthroughs (removing pimples from your face), personal development > programmes, effective management techniques, holiday destinations with a > difference (try the local tea) to reassert the right-ness and alleged > newness of what we are on about. It is all one great big social/biological > wank. The exploitation of a continuous stream of static patterns. > > Ohhh, there is soooo much invested in keeping these static patterns going, > sooo many vested interests. The WORLD FAMOUS ORIGINAL JUNGLE QUEEN' over and > over again (Lila,p132). > > Anything even remotely dynamic, immediately absorbed within its own > tentacles, to be exploited, cast in a mode of profitability and prostituted > in the process. Organic stuff objectified, social stuff consumerised, > clientised, partnerised,patientised, victimised,criminalised,subsidised, > womanised,legalised, culturalised,touristised, quietised, emphasised, > nullified, systematised, subjectified ...objectified. > > SOM objectifies everything exept itself because it does not see or > recognise itself. It is its own feedback-loop. It is a miror of itself. A > creation in its own image and of its own image. And it has done a great job > convincing everyone that this is the way.This is reality. > > Except for a few...the bleeding hearts and artists. > I wish I belonged to one or the other...but I don't. > > Home is where the heart lies but if the heart lies where is home? (Fish) > > Got a bit carried away here Platt. > For what it is worth. > Andre > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
