Marsha, i have never said i think science is the be all and end all. Science as you point out is constantly under revue, amendment and enhancement. I dont believe i have exhibited a lack of humility - all i did was say my point of view. I just think that the scientific approach has yielded more for people than the religious, and it has sense to it whereas religion for me makes little sense.
-KO 2009/4/14 MarshaV <[email protected]> > > KO, > > Yes he is a scientist. I never totally dis'd or dismissed science. I like > science. I just believe science, even evolution, can be challenged. There > is nothing absolute about the current scientific points-of-view, and I > resent the lack of humility. > > > > Marsha > > > At 11:02 AM 4/14/2009, you wrote: > >> And Mr Lovelock is a scientist. >> >> -KO >> >> 2009/4/14 MarshaV <[email protected]> >> >> > >> > Platt, >> > >> > Betterness from the point-of-view of 'this world' as compared to the >> > betterness of DQ's total freedom? Is this the betterness missing? Well >> you >> > may be correct. There doesn't seem to be any consideration for >> stability in >> > most of the scientific drive for economic progress. I like better James >> > Lovelock's Gaia point-of-view, which says that in the end Earth will >> survive >> > as it is a self-correcting system. Mr. Lovelock is also optimistic in >> > thinking that there will be humans that survive too. And the Gaia >> > hypothesis seems more like the MOQ interrelationship between static and >> > dynamic forces. >> > >> > >> > Marsha >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > At 10:21 AM 4/14/2009, you wrote: >> > >> >> Marsha, >> >> >> >> "But static patterns, nevertheless, provide a necessary stabilizing >> force >> >> to protect Dynamic progress from degeneration. Although Dynamic >> Quality, >> >> the Quality of freedom, creates this world in which we live, these >> >> patterns >> >> of static quality, the quality of order, preserve our world. Neither >> >> static >> >> nor Dynamic Quality can survive without the other." (Lila, 9) >> >> >> >> Does this passage answer your question? >> >> >> >> Platt >> >> >> >> >> >> > Platt, >> >> > >> >> > Does RMP specifically use the word 'progress'? Is freedom always >> >> > progress? From what point-of-view? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Marsha >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > At 09:11 AM 4/14/2009, you wrote: >> >> > >Hi Marsha, KO, DMB, et al: >> >> > > >> >> > >The big thing missing from current evolution theories and >> applications >> >> > is >> >> > >any notion of things getting better or, as we MOQer's believe, >> progress >> >> > >towards greater freedom and versatility. It has always bothered me >> that >> >> > >precious little attention is paid to ever expanding consciousness >> over >> >> > time >> >> > >from the first little wiggle of life to the worldly mind of a Mozart >> or >> >> > an >> >> > >Einstein. In other words, science, totally dependent on measurable >> >> > surface >> >> > >data, has largely been unable to deal with the steady evolutionary >> >> > >expansion of interior awareness, the real indicator of Dynamic >> >> > progress, >> >> > >"Are you better off as a woman than a mouse?" The MOQ answer: "You >> >> > betcha." >> >> > >That's progress! >> >> > > >> >> > >Platt >> >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> >> Archives: >> >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> >> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> >> >> > >> > . >> > _____________ >> > >> > Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the >> stars......... >> > . >> > . >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list >> > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> > Archives: >> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> > >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> > > . > _____________ > > Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars......... > . > . > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
