[WillBlake] If you mean to use such a polarizing discussion to promote your notion of PC, then it is very self serving, and no different from that evil PC you talk about.
[Arlo] Jeezuz fucking Christ. Again with this. Do I have to spell this out yet again. I "promote" PC that is Good. I condemn PC that is evil. And I laugh about PC that is comical. I am not "drawing" you into a polarizing discussion. YOU, sir, mentioned the idea that nominating a woman based only on her gender is an evil form of PC. YOU said gender should have no part of that. I said BUT IT HISTORICALLY HAS! If you want to condemn "affirmative" movements to place a woman justice, YOU have to include the context of that decision in your argument. If "affirmative action" is evil, and we don't use it, then how is it that a gender that makes up more than half the population isn't represented on the Bench? [WillBlake] At the same time we discuss women, shall we discuss why there are not any gay justices. [Arlo] Yes, we should. Why do you think no openly gay person was ever nominated for the Court? (Some may have been gay, and we just don't know). [WillBlake] How about justices under the age of 30, what is up with that! [Arlo] Well, now this gets to "merit" issue. I think you could make a strong argument that one needs much more experience in legal work than one could amass by the age of thirty to serve. So "age", I'd say, is a strong factor towards "merit", in this case. [WillBlake] I don't see any mute justices either, get to work! [Arlo] This is a good point. Why do you think there have been none? I'm not sure what the "mute" population is to know if their representation in law-work is under-represented or not. [WillBlake] What about justices that have no legal background, talk about discrimination! [Arlo] That's a "merit" issue, as I'm sure you know. [WillBlake] I believe the supreme court composition in terms of gender, is a result of careful thinking and choosing of the right person for the position. Not, as you may retort, an example of discrimination. [Arlo] So its just coincidence that the right person has almost always, historically, been a man? Granted, for the few decades of our country women were pretty much denied access to education and jobs, couldn't even vote for that matter, let alone be a Judge. So we can rule out the early years as pretty much obvious times of discrimination. We are past that, right? We live in a world where "merit" is all that matters, right? So then why are women still under-represented? [WillBlake] I find more teachers to be women. [Arlo] Yikes. And can you possibly guess at the historical reason for this? [WillBlake] Many football players are huge tough guys, many black. Should we change the rules so that this doesn't happen? [Arlo] Being huge and tough matters in football. But I have seen a number of female highschool football players that perform better than a lot of the boys on the field. But I am surprised you mentioned the black thing. We did change the rules, remember Jackie Robinson? Up til that point it was a white only game. Many people were vehemently against "niggers" playing in the Major League. So the next time you watch a black athlete score a winning run or td for your team, you can thank the fact that we changed the rules. [WillBlake] Lower the basketball nets so that it doesn't favor tall people. [Arlo] Height matters in basketball. So its a valid measure of whether or not one will likely succeed. And that's fine. Can you point to me a sport where skin color matters? [WillBlake] How's that for the use of hyperbole? Am I learning? [Arlo] I've backed up all my examples with repeated explanations that anyone with half a brain cell could understand. Harldy "hyperbole". I understand that it sucks for you to have the whole "retard issue" pointed out when you set up and attack that strawman of "PC", but until YOU can show me why that is NOT an example of PC, I stand by my assertation that it is. In other words, when you can explain to me why its a "hyperbole", you can accuse me of this. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
