Hi Marsha, Yea, social patterns, I guess.
I don't know how they work, that is why I wanted to enter into this post subject. My feeling is that there is an easy tendency to resolve this question of reality by saying that it is internal. The end of philosophy by such means seems trite. I have not read all the posts on MoQ, so I will see what has been said before about social patterns before I continue with this. Thanks, Willblake2 On May 9, 2009, at 10:11:03 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: Greetings Willblake2, Oooh, you want to discuss Social Level patterns. I've disconnected my television, so maybe you can tell me how they work. Marsha At 01:00 PM 5/9/2009, you wrote: >Hi All, > >Group reality can be felt, I feel it on a soccer field, I feel it in a movie. >I see it bring the economy up and down, I read about it creating >civilizations and then bringing them down. > >We can call them illusional or delusional, all the more reason to >discuss them. > >My point is that group reality has it's own consciousness which is >just as real to it, as my mind is to me. It has behavior, it reacts and >modifies itself through interaction and learning. By only focussing >on our inward feelings and reality as is suggested by the End >of Philosophy, seems to me to leave a whole aspect of our >experience out. > >As I understand Quality, it encompasses different levels. >It would be a shame to limit it. > >Cheers, >Willblake2 > > >On May 9, 2009, at 9:29:22 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >At 11:39 AM 5/9/2009, you wrote: > >Willblake2 to Marsha: > >How would you describe group reality? > > > >Andre: > >Hi Willblake2 and Marsha. > >Hope you don't mind me hopping in. This question reminds me of the first > >sociology book I ever read which was written by Peter Berger: 'Invitation to > >sociology', and put me on to his 'The Social Construction of Reality' > >written in collaboration if I remember correctly. > >I also attended a lecture of his when he visited LaTrobe University in > >Melbourne, Australia. Didn't understand much of what he was saying though. I > >remember at one point during his lecture he pointed to the watch on his > >wrist saying: Íf this is not sexual harrassment I do not know what is'. (I > >was so naive and still am). > > > >Anyway, with a little bit of Pirsig I can now suggest that 'group reality' > >is hypnosis and individual reality is considered delusion. > > > >Regards > >Andre > >Hi Andre, > >Or Lila might say it is whatever you say it is, you cannot lie. > > >Marsha > >p.s. I also read 'The Social Construction of >Reality'. It had me walking around dazed for >weeks. I don't get the referenced link between >the watch and sexual harassment. > > > > > > >. >_____________ > >Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars......... >. >. > >Moq_Discuss mailing list >Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >Archives: >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > >Moq_Discuss mailing list >Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >Archives: >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ . _____________ Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars......... . . Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
