yea, that too.

how many have men killed Marsha?

How many have women killed?

how many have children killed?


 



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From: MarshaV <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 4:01:13 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] Reductionism


Marsha:
How many did men kill?


At 03:57 PM 6/3/2009, you wrote:
> > On 3 Jun 2009 at 6:53, X Acto wrote:
> >
> > > Platt,
> > > Why not back up your own claim? lets see some numbers.
> >
> > Platt:
> > Begin with the Holocaust: 6 million killed.
> >
> > Ron:
> > Be specific Platt, this in no way supports your arguement,
> > tallies for each is a acceptable way to gage what system killed more.
> > 6 millon, opposed to what? how may we make an accurate assessment?
> > which system is responsible?
>Platt:
>You asked for some numbers. I gave them to you. What do you think is
>my argument? Perhaps if you put it in your own words we can come to
>some agreement.
>
>Ron:
>It is difficult to come to an agreement about which system killed more people
>when you only cite one number, (6 million).
>
>to clarify, how many did communism kill?
>
>how many did socialism kill?
>
>how many did fascism kill?
>
>How many did capitalism kill?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 3:06:36 PM
>Subject: Re: [MD] Reductionism
>
>On 3 Jun 2009 at 9:25, X Acto wrote:
>
>
>
>
> > > and does the measurement of deaths a proper way to decide
> > > which system is "better"? is the lesser of two evils "betterness"?
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> >
> > > Individuals kill, systems do not. Stalin and Hitler, two individuals gave
> > > the orders. Bolshevism and national socialism were masks for 
> totalitarianism.
> > > The rule of a lone individual.
> >
> > Platt:
> > Since when can a lone individual rule without the backing of others?
> >
> > Ron:
> > You tell me, you are the perponant of lone individuals making quality
> > decisions to change societies.
>
>Lone individuals making quality decisions don't try to rule others. The
>best societies are free societies. Do you agree?
>
>
>
>________________________________
> > > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 9:34:07 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [MD] Reductionism
> > >
> > > On 2 Jun 2009 at 22:58, Krimel wrote:
> > >
> > > > > [Platt]
> > > > > So capitalism has killed as many as communism and fascism? Is that
> > > > > your claim? Let's see some proof. Otherwise, you're just 
> popping off,
> > > > > trying to defend the indefensible.
> > > > >
> > > > > [Krimel]
> > > > > Is this some attempt as self parody? Are you trying to make a joke of
> > > > > genocide? Because if you are. it's working. You are a 
> really funny guy.
> > > >
> > > > [Platt]
> > > > Just as I thought. You can't back up your claim. Typical of 
> your posts.
> > > >
> > > > [Krimel]
> > > > I would truly like to hear why you think the number matters 
> at all. Is that
> > > > really how you measure morality and beauty? We are better if 
> our numbers are
> > > > lower?
> > >
> > > Nice try at changing the subject. Are you going to back up your claim or
> > > not? On second thought, why do I bother asking?
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