[Nick]
Show me how the NAP is twisted logic.
[Arlo]
What's twisted is your definition of "coercion". You make it sound,
well not even make it sound, you say it outright, that anyone who
doesn't buy your absurd definition of "coercion" is a murderer and a
thief. If you had the smallest ability to perceive this, you'd see
that everyone who has responded to you has been critical of your
ridiculous take on "evil guvmint coercion assailing liberty people
like you". You take criticism of your warped view on coercion to
paint others as horrific little tyrants and criminals. You are not
seeking dialogue, you are seeking aggrandizement. Oh you won't admit
it, you won't say this isn't about Glorious Liberty Lovin' Nick the
Messiah, but it is. We are all just sooo stupid, we just don't see
the way it really is, like you do, we are all evil and corrupt and
murderous and thieving, but not YOU, oh boy no! Nick is for Liberty.
Nick is for Freedom. All you need is a blue suit and a red cape.
"Here he comes to save the day!" (Yeah yeah, that's Mighty Mouse, not
Superman, I know) So before you and Platt start giving each other the
ol' righteous reach around, at least try to step out of our haze for
long enough to see that this is NOT about this NAP stuff, it is about
your warped version of "coercion". There are other "non-aggression"
philosophies out there, can you say "Buddhism"?, and I admit to a
certain empathy with anarcho-communism, but I can see the "evil" in
the world that comes from either anarchy (law of the jungle) or
totalitarianism. We have civil governance for a reason, and it is
Good. It is symbiotic. Yes, at times it gets out of balance in one
direction or the other, we swing in a pendulum from miner's bodies
being dropped off on their shanty's porch with an eviction notice
pinned to the shirt to the state taking control of car companies. And
we are still oscillating. We'll swing "right" again, and then "left"
once more. And there is much to condemn and criticize about our
government, but there is also much to praise and be thankful for,
something I am reminded me every time I ride my Harley on public
roads north into the "Pennsylvania Wilds".
Do you think that taxation to fund, say, the military is immorally
coercive? If not, why is it okay for you to steal my tax dollars to
pay for wars that I don't agree with? Shouldn't we have an all
volunteer army, supported by private funding and charity? Or a
private army, mercenaries, who are paid for only be those who wish to
hire them? Or are we saying there should be an abolition of a
"military" altogether, and people should be responsible for defending
their own land with their own gun? What would be a "free market"
alternative to a coercively-supported immoral tax-based military?
What about your "courts", how would they be funded? Charity and bake
sales? Private donations? Can you see no problem with private funding
for civil courts? What about in poor areas that can't afford a court?
Should wealth form a basis for civil legalities in any given area?
In any event, Nick, I don't see any real hope to any productive
dialogue here. All you're doing is running in absurd rhetorical
circles, saying the same nightmare phrases over and over, accusing
anyone who disagrees with you of being a murderer and a thief,
moaning about how stupid we are all (with the implied converse that
YOU are so wise!) and then acting like no one is respond to you
intellectually. Well, they all tried. And it got them nothing. If it
makes you feel better to play the whole "assailed messiah" routine,
knock yourself out.
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