krimel,
so you believe systems exist independently of the observer? 
an independent objective reality was discredited 100 years ago by quantum 
physics. pirsig revealed the constructed nature of SOM reality. 

the immediate present is eternal; it is outside time - time is psychological. 
time and space as independent structuring elements of experience is a kantian 
concept and is at odds with radical empiricism and pirsig and buddhism and 
taoism and physics etc 

your thinking pressuposes SOM - senses responding to an external (system 
dependent) reality - that is *subject experiencing object*. this is as non-moq 
as it is possible to be.

if you are here to argue with pirsig about the fundamentals of his work then i 
reckon that's kinda pointless, but i guess that's your prerogative.

 you thoroughly identify with SOM. do you realise this? 

it is frustrating to go through all the basics that pirsig has explored much 
more thoroughly in his books. 

what do you agree with pirsig about? 


 


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